The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Rumours
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-11-2018, 09:12 PM
SteveMacD's Avatar
SteveMacD SteveMacD is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Buckeye State
Posts: 6,204
Default Double standards (2nd try)

No solo on Gypsy…


“And Then…”



“How dare they play The Chain and having broken it...” Yeah, because Lindsey didn’t do it on his first solo tour after HE broke The Chain (8:25)



“There wasn’t the fire between Neil and Stevie…”

And there isn’t going to be. Pretty unrealistic to expect her to have any chemistry with someone she hardly knows compared with her ex she’s known since she was a teenager. Stevie and Rick really didn’t have any chemistry at first.

Mick and John sounded fine, Neil was on pitch, Mike rocked out when he needed to (though was the shakiest performance). Christine looked great, although got lost in the mix. Not going to say anything about Stevie other than it was a standard performance.
__________________
On and on it will always be, the rhythm, rhyme, and harmony.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/SteveMacD/fm2014_zps5c60d7b9.jpg
THE Stephen Hopkins
Reply With Quote
.
  #2  
Old 09-11-2018, 09:24 PM
BombaySapphire3 BombaySapphire3 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 3,854
Default

Stevie also performed The Chain at the House of Blues in '91 after she had also bailed on the band. Neither she nor Lindsey were fired then .They had left by their own choice as did Christine in '98. The Chain on Ellen was not terrible . Stevie looking ,pointing and squinting at Neil was terrible or at the very least absurd. Gypsy was pretty bad and that is mostly due to Stevie's vocal performance . I was a fan of the Rumours band in the 1970s and Stevie in her solo prime in real time and remain a fan of the great music produced during those years. However If this is the current state of her voice then she should retire.
__________________
Children of the world the forgotten chimpanzee..in the eyes of the world you have done so much for me. ..SLN.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-11-2018, 09:28 PM
SteveMacD's Avatar
SteveMacD SteveMacD is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Buckeye State
Posts: 6,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 View Post
Stevie also performed The Chain at the House of Blues in '91 after she had also bailed on the band. Neither she nor Lindsey were fired then .
So, Lindsey and Stevie can effectively fire the band (or break the chain), but the band can’t fire them?
__________________
On and on it will always be, the rhythm, rhyme, and harmony.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/SteveMacD/fm2014_zps5c60d7b9.jpg
THE Stephen Hopkins
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-11-2018, 09:42 PM
sands of time sands of time is offline
Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 90
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveMacD View Post
So, Lindsey and Stevie can effectively fire the band (or break the chain), but the band can’t fire them?
There is something seriously wrong with you.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-11-2018, 09:48 PM
BombaySapphire3 BombaySapphire3 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 3,854
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveMacD View Post
So, Lindsey and Stevie can effectively fire the band (or break the chain), but the band can’t fire them?
If you don't get the difference between someone leaving a band on their own accord and getting fired in the twilight years from a band that you were largely responsible for the commercial and artistic success of then there is probably no way that It can be explained.
__________________
Children of the world the forgotten chimpanzee..in the eyes of the world you have done so much for me. ..SLN.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-11-2018, 10:02 PM
DownOnRodeo's Avatar
DownOnRodeo DownOnRodeo is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 2,902
Default On a side note

Lindsey performing The Chain solo vs Stevie performing it solo or even the post-Tango FM iterations performing it are different kettles of fish.

The music and lyrics of that song as we know it is something like 65% Lindsey, 25% Christine and John, and 10% Stevie.

But anyway, the "band" giving Lindsey the boot 20 years after the Dance reunion and at this advanced stage of their lives and legacies and then electing to introduce their new lineup with The Chain was symbolically abominable and creatively deceptive.
__________________
Joe
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-11-2018, 10:08 PM
BombaySapphire3 BombaySapphire3 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 3,854
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo View Post
Lindsey performing The Chain solo vs Stevie performing it solo or even the post-Tango FM iterations performing it are different kettles of fish.

The music and lyrics of that song as we know it is something like 65% Lindsey, 25% Christine and John, and 10% Stevie.

But anyway, the "band" giving Lindsey the boot 20 years after the Dance reunion and at this advanced stage of their lives and legacies and then electing to introduce their new lineup with The Chain was symbolically abominable and creatively deceptive.
Not to mention the choice of performing Gypsy..perhaps the ultimate example of a pretty ordinary Stevie song transformed into something magical by Lindsey's studio handiwork.
__________________
Children of the world the forgotten chimpanzee..in the eyes of the world you have done so much for me. ..SLN.


Last edited by BombaySapphire3 : 09-11-2018 at 10:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-11-2018, 10:37 PM
iamnotafraid iamnotafraid is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,802
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo View Post

...the "band" giving Lindsey the boot 20 years after the Dance reunion and at this advanced stage of their lives and legacies and then electing to introduce their new lineup with The Chain was symbolically abominable and creatively deceptive.
I like this.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-11-2018, 10:40 PM
SteveMacD's Avatar
SteveMacD SteveMacD is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Buckeye State
Posts: 6,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sands of time View Post
There is something seriously wrong with you.
Yes there is. I appreciate consistency.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 View Post
If you don't get the difference between someone leaving a band on their own accord and getting fired in the twilight years from a band that you were largely responsible for the commercial and artistic success of then there is probably no way that It can be explained.
Probably not. I don’t get why it was okay for Lindsey to reach his breaking point with them in 1987 for whatever reason, but they’re forbidden from reaching their own breaking point with him because of subsequent history.
__________________
On and on it will always be, the rhythm, rhyme, and harmony.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/SteveMacD/fm2014_zps5c60d7b9.jpg
THE Stephen Hopkins
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-11-2018, 10:46 PM
SteveMacD's Avatar
SteveMacD SteveMacD is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Buckeye State
Posts: 6,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo View Post
Lindsey performing The Chain solo vs Stevie performing it solo or even the post-Tango FM iterations performing it are different kettles of fish.
Why?

Quote:
The music and lyrics of that song as we know it is something like 65% Lindsey, 25% Christine and John, and 10% Stevie.
Didn’t get the cheat sheet. I’m sure Mick would have something to say about that split.


Quote:
But anyway, the "band" giving Lindsey the boot 20 years after the Dance reunion and at this advanced stage of their lives and legacies and then electing to introduce their new lineup with The Chain was symbolically abominable and creatively deceptive.
I agree that a new lineup at this point is ridiculous, but so was Lindsey quitting in the first place. As was calling a Fleetwood Mac album something else.
__________________
On and on it will always be, the rhythm, rhyme, and harmony.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/SteveMacD/fm2014_zps5c60d7b9.jpg
THE Stephen Hopkins
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-11-2018, 10:58 PM
DownOnRodeo's Avatar
DownOnRodeo DownOnRodeo is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 2,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveMacD View Post
Why?
For the reason I stated in the subsequent paragraph.
Context does not seem to be your greatest strength as far as the topic of this thread goes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveMacD View Post
Didn’t get the cheat sheet.
Come on, be fair--you have at least quadruple my FM knowledge, so you must know I'm roughly in the right ballpark as far as The Chain contribution breakdown goes.

Attend the DownOnRodeo VIP Experience on the sidelines of Lindsey's concert in Birmingham in November and I will personally hand you a Signature Cheat Sheet with my scientifically proven mathematical breakdowns of contributions to each song (percentages rounded to the nearest whole integer) as well as a hand-crafted dossier explaining in multiple languages that the events of 1987 are completely different to those of 2018.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveMacD View Post
I’m sure Mick would have something to say about that split.
Perhaps you could pay him 660 USD to ask.
But seriously, kudos to Mick for his contributions within the ranks.
__________________
Joe
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-11-2018, 11:49 PM
sodascouts's Avatar
sodascouts sodascouts is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Memphis area
Posts: 4,338
Default

People have explained their logic as to why they believe the context is different; SteveMacD does not accept anyone's logic and repeatedly insists the context is the same.

I'm afraid this thread is achieving very little.
__________________
- Nancy

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-12-2018, 12:13 AM
justcrazylove's Avatar
justcrazylove justcrazylove is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 321
Default

SteveMacD has been doubling down on his support of this **** show since the Ellen performance, almost as if to prove some kind of point, whilst I've disagreed with your opinion since April, you have been quite reasoned. However, you can't possibly think that that performance was in anyway good. Being completely objective, it was trash.
__________________
"Leisure line to heaven, puttin' on the hits, here we have another, another piece of glitz"
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-12-2018, 03:11 AM
iamnotafraid iamnotafraid is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,802
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justcrazylove View Post
... However, you can't possibly think that that performance was in anyway good. Being completely objective, it was trash.
I think it's exactly what was expected out of
a group of seventy something year olds.

The only surprise was Christine looking better.
What's her secret?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-12-2018, 07:04 AM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 11,496
Default

Three threads to say this? oy... Someone was drinking.
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

FLEETWOOD MAC personally signed 45 - CHRISTINE McVIE
$277.82
FLEETWOOD MAC personally signed 45 - CHRISTINE McVIE pictureFLEETWOOD MAC personally signed Greatest hits LP cover - CHRISTINE McVIE
$125.01
FLEETWOOD MAC personally signed Greatest hits LP cover - CHRISTINE McVIE pictureChristine McVie Poster Fleetwood Mac Old /Warner Brothers
$29.0
Christine McVie Poster Fleetwood Mac Old /Warner Brothers pictureFLEETWOOD MAC STEVIE NICKS MICK CHRISTINE MCVIE LINDSEY GRAMMY AWARD POSTER
$24.99
FLEETWOOD MAC STEVIE NICKS MICK CHRISTINE MCVIE LINDSEY GRAMMY AWARD POSTER picture1978 Press Photo Christine McVie and Bob Welch - cvp35608
$19.99
1978 Press Photo Christine McVie and Bob Welch - cvp35608 picture



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved