In the Meantime sales...

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

since i put out, i should get special rights around here from now on!!!

You haven't put out yet!
(But, if you do, I'll give you the key to the executive washroom. )

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Oooohkay. This thread has now officially gone ape****.

David did ask us to liven things up around here!

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Oooohkay. This thread has now officially gone ape****.

Wait till REFleetwoodMac shows up

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

How is it inappropriate, deary?

With no offense meant to Homie or Brownie, I think they just didn't quite get it.

Originally Posted by dissention

I laughed at it. Which says a lot.

Score! I made David and dissy laugh!

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'd have to agree with you. And I think, contrary to popular belief, a large portion of Stevie's own fanbase doesn't necessarily feel that she's the greatest songwriter of all time either, even if she's their preferred songwriter.

All things considered, Stevie's fanbase is probably the most critical overall.
But that doesn't fit into the stereotype that folks like to perpetuate.

The reason Stevie is so much more popular than the other two is this:

1. She was considered a sex symbol. (this has nothing to do with music)
2. People (mostly women) but some men...related to her witchy, hippie Janis Joplin like stage presence. (she was excellent at entertaining the crowds). They ate her up, dressed like her, talked like her, danced liked her, started clubs etc etc

Combine these two elements and you have superstardom.

Now having said that, I think she has written some really good music. Is she the greatest of all time? Hell no.. but either is Christine or LB... And quite honestly, I never thought Bob Dylan was all that fantastic either. He wrote some phenominal songs and some really horrible songs. (funny both Stevie and Bob have irritating voices later on in their careers)

It's all pretty subjective...

Now if you want to talk about the best composers, let's go with Jeff Buckley or someone that does more than I V IV. otherwise it's all just radio hits to me.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'd have to agree with you. And I think, contrary to popular belief, a large portion of Stevie's own fanbase doesn't necessarily feel that she's the greatest songwriter of all time either, even if she's their preferred songwriter.

I think there's also a good contingent of her fanbase (like me and David, for two) who aren't fans of her because we think she's a great songwriter (in any traditional sense, anyway).

All things considered, Stevie's fanbase is probably the most critical overall.
But that doesn't fit into the stereotype that folks like to perpetuate.

It's an interesting dichotomy. Many Stevie fans are at once intensely critical of the songs of hers that they don't like (I don't think you could have a "bizarro survivor" on any of the other forums) but also intensely defensive of the ones they do, and intensely defensive of her personally.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

And quite honestly, I never thought Bob Dylan was all that fantastic either. He wrote some phenominal songs and some really horrible songs.

I don't think you'll find any Dylan fans who would claim that the man hasn't written some fantastically awful songs. So it goes when you've been writing and recording for over forty years. But there's simply very little that's better than Dylan at his peak(s), and he's released more of those phenomenal songs than most people could if they had two lifetimes to try.

[macfan 57]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

But there's simply very little that's better than Dylan at his peak(s), and he's released more of those phenomenal songs than most people could if they had two lifetimes to try.

I agree. Dylan in his prime back in the 1960's was the best songwriter ever, by far. If you listen to his albums during those years, there are so many classics & no bad songs at all, in my opinion. He's the only singer I enjoy listening to whose voice I can't stand. Lennon & McCartney are still my favorite songwriters & Christine is my favorite songwriter in Fleetwood Mac, by far.

By the way, this has turned into a most bizarre thread. And, to think it started with Brandon asking about In The Meantime album sales.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

. . . It's an interesting dichotomy. Many Stevie fans are at once intensely critical of the songs of hers that they don't like (I don't think you could have a "bizarro survivor" on any of the other forums) but also intensely defensive of the ones they do, and intensely defensive of her personally.

By the same token, some of those who attack her do so on a personal basis and many of them do so on purpose and just to get a rise out of people. Then, when someone notes that, they are called a mindless faithful, etc.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by macfan 57

And, to think it started with Brandon asking about In The Meantime album sales.

Curtis...where are you?

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

By the same token, some of those who attack her do so on a personal basis and many of them do so on purpose and just to get a rise out of people.

Also true. That's really fun though.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

By the same token, some of those who attack her do so on a personal basis and many of them do so on purpose and just to get a rise out of people. Then, when someone notes that, they are called a mindless faithful, etc.

Ever get in a argument about the better Beatle? Oh my...also dangerous territory.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Ever get in a argument about the better Beatle? Oh my...also dangerous territory.

Odd that people get so worked up about it when it's so obviously George.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

By the same token, some of those who attack her do so on a personal basis and many of them do so on purpose and just to get a rise out of people. Then, when someone notes that, they are called a mindless faithful, etc.

We are in the Christine board dear, and I believe that some of your troops *cough* started it first....

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Odd that people get so worked up about it when it's so obviously George.

You are so wrong and delusional. It's John.