Sharpton Calling for Boycott of KFC! WTF?!? - Page 14

Johnny Stew · #**196** 02-02-2005, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodascouts

So, does everyone attacking Brown_Eyes agree to boycott KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut?

Nance, I don't believe the majority of people here are having issues with whether or not Brwn_Eyes wants to eat at KFC (or anywhere else for that matter), but rather the disturbingly offensive comments made regarding Mr. Sharpton.

In addition, many people were commenting on some of the double-standards that were being expressed.

amber · #**197** 02-02-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

Watch PETA's footage of how they manhandle and abuse the chickens. The people that work in those slaughterhouses are cruel beyond belief; some even do it as if it's a sport.

I was suspecting that some kinds of people who like to torture/kill animals (which, by the way, is one of the personality traits of a serial killer) might work at these places. I don't know if I can watch that footage, without my heart being torn from my chest and shriveling into a dried corpse, but - I appreciate the info. God, that is so fricking sick...

DrummerDeanna · #**198** 02-02-2005, 05:56 PM

Nancy - did you take your murder post away - or am I going crazy lol.....the distinction really doesn't make a difference to me

I guess that's just the way I feel - oddly up until relatively recently I was totally pro-death penalty - but upon learning more about it I've changed my stance...

sodascouts · #**199** 02-02-2005, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Life imprisonment is actually a bigger deterent of crime than the death penalty

I'm not so sure about that. Many people argue against the deterrance factor for the death penalty because so many people commit crimes "in the heat of the moment." This would hold true for life imprisonment as well, wouldn't it?

amber · #**200** 02-02-2005, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdreamsunwindx

lol. It's nothing like that. Honestly, it's because I had two unexcused absences, and they all sent someone over to take me to court about it, etc. Totally crazy, LONG story. It's fine now, though.

Whoa! 2?! that's so lame, they used to just call our parents when we had unexcused absenses, or give us detention or something.
God, I remember that beautiful day my senior year, when my best friend turned 18 (Feb.27th, to be exact) and she could write her own notes!

Then it was just up to me to forge mine, luckily i'm a good forger...

Anyway, that sounds really, really, lame, but i'm glad it wasn't something more serious.

pianogirl04 · #**201** 02-02-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Ok well call me what you want...but you know what abortion is and you know what you support BY supporting abortion I don't even need to say it. So call me any name you want, I refuse to get angry anymore at some folks that I don't even know who post on this board.

Every person here defines right and wrong, just and unjust differently. Different people have different reasons to believe what they do and just because they don't share the same reasons you have for believing or not believing in something doesn't make them wrong. Just because you perceive something as wrong doesn't mean that somebody else does, nor should they because that's not how they see it. Everybody perceives their world and their reality differently from the next person. Taking it personally and calling them on the differences between their reality and yours just increases the amount of emotional poison in the world and that doesn't do anyone any good. Agree to disagree and move on because these kinds of arguments are anything but constructive and nothing good comes from them.

Quote:

And btw...I have every right to acuse you of anything I want...just as you have the right to say "F*ck you"

Not if you can't back it up with something. The heart of debate is in objectivity and proof. If you're going to accuse somebody of something, be prepared to back it up. And please don't make it personal. Attack the issues, not the person.

sodascouts · #**202** 02-02-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Nancy - did you take your murder post away - or am I going crazy lol.....the distinction really doesn't make a difference to me

I guess that's just the way I feel - oddly up until relatively recently I was totally pro-death penalty - but upon learning more about it I've changed my stance...

Yes I did - because I saw Brown_Eyes had already said it and I didn't want to be repetitive. Sorry for the confusion! If you want I'll add it back.

Johnny Stew · #**203** 02-02-2005, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackaghost

As a vegetarian (yeah I know I'll get picked on) I wouldn't eat in those places anyway (or Burger King or McDonalds). In fact I don't think I've even had KFC.

I have a HUGE amount of respect for vegetarians. I wish I was strong enough, will-power wise, to do it... but I'm a die-hard meat eater.

BUT there is absolutely NO reason why chickens, cows, etc., cannot be put down humanely. It is absolutely uncalled for, for them to be so brutally butchered.

dissention · #**204** 02-02-2005, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdreamsunwindx

Well, if you want to get technical, I've been hauled away, but it wasn't for protesting; Short and short of it, it was because of my lame school. And I'm close to getting suspended from school, so... That's why I'm not trying to risk it any time soon.

I don't blame ya, dear.

Save the protesting for when you're not in such hot water.

DrummerDeanna · #**205** 02-02-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Yes I did - because I saw Brown_Eyes had already said it and I didn't want to be repetitive. Sorry for the confusion! If you want I'll add it back.

No that's okay

And good point on the deterent factor - it's true that the heat of the moment defensive would also apply to life imprisonment.

I was going on some local data - there's a push to re-instate the death penalty in New York State. Well - there's another program going on right now called Project Impact -it's basically a zero-tolerance program that targets not only the person committing a crime- but if they're part of a group or gang - law officials go after ALL those people...

The murder rate fell by 40% the first year of project Impact (ROchester's murder rate was higher than NYC's per capita) - the numbers were staggering when they compared murder rates when the death penalty was legal and when it was not - when there was no death penalty murder rates were much lower...

I'm still doing some research to find possible linkages etc...there may not be any - but it is an interesting corealtion...

sodascouts · #**206** 02-02-2005, 06:11 PM

This is the post I deleted because of its repetitiveness, but I'll put it back up so Deanna knows she's not losing her mind, lol.

-------

Actually, the commandment in the original Hebrew is "Thou shalt not murder.

""kill" in English is an all-encompassing verb that covers the taking of life in all forms and for all classes of victims. That kind of generalization is expressed in Hebrew through the verb "harag." However, the verb that appears in the Torah's prohibition is a completely different one, " ratsah" which, it would seem, should be rendered "murder." This root refers only to criminal acts of killing."

http://www.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/Shok...NotMurder.html

----

While morally some people classify the death penalty as murder, since it is not a criminal act to put a person to death, it does not fall into the category given by the word "ratsah." It's fine to be against the death penalty, but it's inaccurate to use this commandment as support for your stance.

amber · #**207** 02-02-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackaghost

thanks Johnny

I've never lectured people about eating meat but it seems a small request to treat animals with a little respect before they die.

I think it's great, I wish i was still one. You never lectured anyone? ooo, that was my favorite part when i was one!!!

JK, of course.

sodascouts · #**208** 02-02-2005, 06:20 PM

For all the people who answered affirmatively that they were boycotting KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut - good for you for standing behind your beliefs wholeheartedly. It's easy to say "Oh, that's bad, how could you not see that" and then go order up a bucket of Original Recipe. Regarding these matters, I say put up or shut up.

DrummerDeanna · #**209** 02-02-2005, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodascouts

While morally some people classify the death penalty as murder, since it is not a criminal act to put a person to death, it does not fall into the category given by the word "ratsah." It's fine to be against the death penalty, but it's inaccurate to use this commandment as support for your stance.

Point seen - and thanks for the clarification -though my original statement was more made in haste and annoynace...which is really never a good thing...

paperdoll · #**210** 02-02-2005, 06:31 PM

Did you get this directly from one of Bush's speech's?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

To grant freedom to millions, to spread democracy, to stop terrorism.

War has solved issues such as slavery, communism, totalitarianism...

no war has never solved anything

It's not fun and it's not a "great" thing...

But sometimes you must fight for freedom.