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Old 05-04-2011, 08:07 AM
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Default Seeking Bob Welch - Green Manalishi

Does anyone have a good quality version of Bob Welch singing Green Manalishi? I have a version on my computer but it isn't the best sound quality and as I like Bob singing it I'd really like a better version.

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Old 05-04-2011, 10:29 AM
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Question Speaking of which...

...does anyone know when (and why) the band decided to bring Green's songs back into the set-list?

They did not play any in concert (that I know of), after Green first left, building their shows around Kirwan, Spencer and Christine until Welch joined the band -

Did they feel they needed the Green songs to fill out the set after Spencer's departure until Welch had enough new material to fill the gap?

What might have been going through Kirwan's mind when the idea was first broached? Here they were trying to move forward, and now they were looking backward again...
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:35 AM
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...does anyone know when (and why) the band decided to bring Green's songs back into the set-list?

They did not play any in concert (that I know of), after Green first left, building their shows around Kirwan, Spencer and Christine until Welch joined the band -

Did they feel they needed the Green songs to fill out the set after Spencer's departure until Welch had enough new material to fill the gap?

What might have been going through Kirwan's mind when the idea was first broached? Here they were trying to move forward, and now they were looking backward again...
I would think it was because neither Danny nor Jeremy wanted (or felt capable) to do Peter's material. (Jeremy could probably shed more light from his side of things) I think Welch felt those songs needed to be done and he felt up to the task of doing them; especially, since those were songs that were the UK Hits and were the most "known" of their material to that point.

During those first tours with Welch (71/72), Kirwan took the lead vocal on "Black Magic Woman", Welch took "Oh Well"...little by little, more Green tunes got added to the set and Welch took over lead vocals on Peter's tunes.

In '74, the band was in crisis due to the challenge of ownership of the name "Fleetwood Mac" (due to the whole "bogus band" fiasco), so besides having new material, they dug deep into the catalogue to perform those songs as "proof" that they were "THE REAL" Fleetwood Mac.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:24 PM
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[QUOTE=BklynBlue;977717 What might have been going through Kirwan's mind when the idea was first broached? Here they were trying to move forward, and now they were looking backward again...[/QUOTE]




True. Whether during the period immediately after Peter left we wanted to or felt incapable of performing his songs wasn't an issue or even discussed, all we knew was that we wanted to move forward, and Danny and I had never based recording or performing our material according to public taste when we had little to lose playing to sparse crowds.
That's why Peter, Danny and I played blues in the first place at a time when it was far from standard popular fare. It just so happened that it became popular through proponents like John Mayall, God bless him!
The only prob for me was that, as usual in those days, I was up a creek without a paddle for new ideas.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:30 PM
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As always, thank you, Jeremy, for setting us straight.
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:59 PM
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During those first tours with Welch (71/72), Kirwan took the lead vocal on "Black Magic Woman", Welch took "Oh Well"...little by little, more Green tunes got added to the set and Welch took over lead vocals on Peter's tunes.
Bob did them very well, although I'm sure there are many that I haven't heard him sing, but he really performs ones like Oh Well and Green Manalishi as if they were written for him.

Kirwan doing Black Magic Woman on the other hand is just wrong
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:11 AM
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I really really love the Welch verion of Green Manalishi... great guitar work too
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Kirwan doing Black Magic Woman on the other hand is just wrong
Have you HEARD him sing it? He does a GREAT job!
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Did they feel they needed the Green songs to fill out the set after Spencer's departure until Welch had enough new material to fill the gap?
I saw the Welch line up perhaps three times ,one of which was at the Marquee Club ,but I don't recall them doing any Peter Green songs (I suppose it's possible that they did, but I dont recall it !)
I saw a later version of FM at Wembley Arena, in which there was a special part of the show where Billy Burnette and Rick Vito did a selection of Peter's classics,well done , but it didn't have the magic. The guitarist friend I was with walked out of the concert in disgust at this point ,but I stayed till the end.
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I saw the Welch line up perhaps three times ,one of which was at the Marquee Club ,but I don't recall them doing any Peter Green songs (I suppose it's possible that they did, but I dont recall it !)
I saw a later version of FM at Wembley Arena, in which there was a special part of the show where Billy Burnette and Rick Vito did a selection of Peter's classics,well done , but it didn't have the magic. The guitarist friend I was with walked out of the concert in disgust at this point ,but I stayed till the end.

Never liked Bob's versions of Green classics. I like a lot of Bob's songs, but he didn't have the stage personality that Green, Kirwan, Spencer and even Buckingham had. It's too sedate.
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