The Second Time

[wheart]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I just dislike it, not hate it. Impossible to me, to include it within her best. But that's what I love of this world. Different opinions about everything.

I do like Empire State, Family Man, Welcome to the Room... Sara. And I know many ledgies hate these songs.

But I don't like Second Time, and When I see you again.

Empire State is decent but I feel Family Man is one of Lindsey's worst songs. And I've never liked WTTRS.

[WatchChain]

I haven't listened to "The Second Time" in over 20 years. I think I initially wrote it off because I wasn't very fond of the "Behind The Mask" album. It doesn't represent Stevie or the band's best work. I remember running out to buy it on the day it was released in 1990 (yes, before ITUNES)......I was disappointed the day that I listened to it. Unlike most of my Stevie/Mac albums, it was on rotation in my cd player for only about 3 weeks.......I locked the album away and haven't pulled it out since. This was part of the problem with the post-Rumours lineup. I suppose I was biased because I could never really buy into them. Now, I realize that I was probably simply longing for THE MAC that I had come to know and love. Kind of like trying to watch "Charlie's Angels" with Shelley Hack and Tanya Roberts.....just didn't feel right.......OR the time when Coy and Vance Duke replaced Bo and Luke on "The Dukes of Hazzard"........Still, there are some pretty disastrous moments on BTM. "Love is Dangerous" makes me cringe.

That being said, I just went back and listened to "The Second Time" for the first time since 1991. You know, the song is not half bad.......It's growing on me. While I wouldn't go so far as to call it one of Stevie's best songs, it certainly does have a sentimental longing/country feel. I just ran it again, and I'm beginning to like it. Thanks for helping me give "The Second Time" a second chance.

[chriskisn]

The thing with this song is that it is the perfect closing song to the album. It wouldn't fit anywhere else in the tracklisting.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Are your listening devices covered in "lace & paper flowers"??

It's as "bottom of the barrel" as a Fleetwood Mac song can be. It is sonic ipecac.

You said it so lightly! And I agree with you whole-hardheartedly. The song had the potential to be a new classic, and reach the emotional realms of "Landslide." The music was good, but the heavy synthesizer track made it sound dated and somewhat cheesy.

The lyrics were the most egregious thing about it; absolute lack of cohesion among the most banal phrases ever sung Her voice doesn't have the warmth to match the tone of the song.The song was yearning for authentic sentiment, which was it lost in disjointed lines that abruptly shift from first person, second person, or third person.

This is a peculiar aspect of some of Stevie's lyrics. I've come to sort of appreciate it as one of Stevie's unique and odd traits, as it can throw you off so you interpret in your own way. I generally like her off-beat songs, but The Second Time is just too contrived and cloying.

[mitzo]

People often diss Stevie's ballads except for the ones on Tusk. On The Mask I vastly prefer The Second Time to Affairs of the Heart, or Freedom. Talk about egregious, banal lyrics ("one set of doors was the colour of honey?", "poor little fool?") and cheesy production (eg. the "hoedown" lilt in Affairs, or the cornball Bond film theatrics in Freedom.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by mitzo

People often diss Stevie's ballads except for the ones on Tusk. On The Mask I vastly prefer The Second Time to Affairs of the Heart, or Freedom. Talk about egregious, banal lyrics ("one set of doors was the colour of honey?", "poor little fool?") and cheesy production (eg. the "hoedown" lilt in Affairs, or the cornball Bond film theatrics in Freedom.

I can't argue with you about those comments. Yet, with Stevie, even her worst (written or sung) songs tend to grow on me, if only because they are so uniquely odd and off track.