Mass. High Court Rules for Gay Marriage!

[sparky]

Originally posted by dissention

GOOD NEWS INDEED!

I think this is going to be a case of winning a battle, losing the war. While I agree with this ruling on interpretation of law, and on a personal level, I think the outcome is going to be decided in Washington.

MA can go right ahead and amend their own constitution, or whatever else they want to do. However, decisions like this are only going to light a fire under Bush and his own little Taliban to amend the US Constitution. And I think they can succeed. If they couldn't succeed today, they will be able to after November. One of the main reasons he wants another term is to load the Supreme Court with religious extremists, and if he wins, that is going to happen. They only need one more in there, and there will be a court that will push things like this through as fast as they can.

Sorry if I sound cynical. I think many people in the country couldn't care less about the issue. But there is a strident group of people who think this is the beginning of the end of civilization - ridiculous as that sounds. I think they will stop at nothing to prevent it.

[ShamHy89]

As if we need anymore proof that Gov. Mitt "Mutt" Romney is a prick. I can't wait to vote that bastard out.

Amen! (Dissention, if you don't mind, who did you like in the last election? O'Brian? Birmingham?)

The thing that I don't understand is how the conservatives can say that the majority of MA residents oppose gay marriages. Every single person that I've spoken to about gay marriage in the past six months has said that they think it should be made legal. It makes you wonder if Repugs even realize that it's MA, the most liberal state!

Same here. We had a huge discussion on it at school and out of 25 or so high school-aged students in my class, only 2 were against gay marriages!

Shamus

[dissention]

Originally posted by ShamHy89
Amen! (Dissention, if you don't mind, who did you like in the last election? O'Brian? Birmingham?)

O'Brien, but only because she was the lesser of two evils.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by sparky
I think this is going to be a case of winning a battle, losing the war. While I agree with this ruling on interpretation of law, and on a personal level, I think the outcome is going to be decided in Washington.

MA can go right ahead and amend their own constitution, or whatever else they want to do. However, decisions like this are only going to light a fire under Bush and his own little Taliban to amend the US Constitution. And I think they can succeed. If they couldn't succeed today, they will be able to after November. One of the main reasons he wants another term is to load the Supreme Court with religious extremists, and if he wins, that is going to happen. They only need one more in there, and there will be a court that will push things like this through as fast as they can.

Sorry if I sound cynical. I think many people in the country couldn't care less about the issue. But there is a strident group of people who think this is the beginning of the end of civilization - ridiculous as that sounds. I think they will stop at nothing to prevent it.

Hold on Sparky - There is hope!!!

Washington pretty much cannot override MA's definition of marriage even with a Const. Amendment, although they can sure try and they will

The IMO silly and hate filled proposed Const. Amendment I have seen (there are a few out there) is to strengthen the Defense of Marriage Act in that it will say or mean that no state has to recognize the definition of marriage as anything other than between one man and one woman. The reason for this proposed amendment is that if MA recognizes gay marriage, then by virtue of the full faith and credit clause and the line of relevant U.S. Sup. Ct. decisions, the other 49 states would be bound and would have to accept the MA marriage as a legal marriage in that other state.

It will be in any event interesting to see how this plays out.

[Johnny Stew]

I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone, to know that I was very happy to hear about this.

We'll see where things go from here... I'm remaining "cautiously optimistic."