Renaming Albums

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I remember an interview where they mentioned other names for the Rumours album, but once John mentioned the album should be called Rumours (because of all the rumors going around about them, natch) they all agreed instantly that was the name. It would be interesting if anyone could remember what the other possible names were.

Behind the Mask was originally titled Twist of Fate.

I think, after Rumours, Tusk, and Mirage, Lindsey wanted to end the one word title streak, hence Tango in the Night.

I thought they were leaning towards Yesterday's Gone before John came up with Rumours.

--Lis

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

It is an interesting piece of history. Anytime an ex is with an ex who brings their new significant other is a tense time. Stevie and Lindsey never got over their relationship. Being that Jimmy was not just her boyfriend but producer who made her a solo star with a #1 album was probably too much for him to take. Also I can see Lindsey being annoyed like "why did you bring him here, we dont need a producer."

That's very true. I thought I had heard (from Ken, maybe?) that there were not supposed to be any peripherals around during the time at the chateau..that was part of the point of going there, to get everyone away from family, partners, distractions etc and just be around each other. which is the impression i get from chris's description...but I wonder if lindsey was upset that Jimmy-- sort of an 'outsider'--was there, when nobody else had any partners with them?

--Lis

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by jmn3

I thought Rumours was originally titled “Yesterday’s Gone?”

Instead of decades of confusion as to the spelling of "Rumours", we could have been enjoying decades of confusion about pluralization and apostrophe placement of "Yesterdays".

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

I thought they were leaning towards Yesterday's Gone before John came up with Rumours.

--Lis

Yes, you and jmn3 are right, as soon as you guys said that, I recognized it. Yesterday’s Gone is actually a good title and very fitting, but Rumours is the perfect title.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

Instead of decades of confusion as to the spelling of "Rumours", we could have been enjoying decades of confusion about pluralization and apostrophe placement of "Yesterdays".

Thank goodness for John! “Skies the Limit” is the most egregious thing Christine McVie ever put out in the world 🤣

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Yes, you and jmn3 are right, as soon as you guys said that, I recognized it. Yesterday’s Gone is actually a good title and very fitting, but Rumours is the perfect title.

It’s serviceable but not nearly as endearing as Rumours. They pretty much nailed everything having to do with that album.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

That's very true. I thought I had heard (from Ken, maybe?) that there were not supposed to be any peripherals around during the time at the chateau..that was part of the point of going there, to get everyone away from family, partners, distractions etc and just be around each other. which is the impression i get from chris's description...but I wonder if lindsey was upset that Jimmy-- sort of an 'outsider'--was there, when nobody else had any partners with them?

--Lis

This is what I would think too. Bringing Jimmy is a way to annoy Lindsey and rub her successful solo album in his face. I can get why Stevie would do it and also get why it would infuriate Lindsey. But it’s par for the course with this toxic duo.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

That's very true. I thought I had heard (from Ken, maybe?) that there were not supposed to be any peripherals around during the time at the chateau..that was part of the point of going there, to get everyone away from family, partners, distractions etc and just be around each other. which is the impression i get from chris's description...but I wonder if lindsey was upset that Jimmy-- sort of an 'outsider'--was there, when nobody else had any partners with them?

--Lis

We do get 2 excellent Stevie songs written during this time: Straight Back and Sable On Blonde (going to France and breaking up with Jimmy). Stevie's life was moving at record speed. Off the Tusk tour she went into the studio for Bella Donna. Once completed, she jet setted back and forth from France and went on tour with Petty flying in for shows around the country. Once his tour finished, she went into rehearsal for her short tour. Then she went back to France to finish Mirage. Came back to the states to make 2 long videos and hit the road with the Mac. Then she went into recording Wild Heart and went on a drug binge tour with Joe. No wonder she was a drug crazed rock star. Just imagine that busy and crazy schedule while everything you touch turns to gold. Bella Donna and Mirage both went to #1 and now they were also video stars.
Too bad there was not a documentary about the making of Mirage. I would enjoy it more than the Tusk one. It was the end of an era for the band and I love every tiny detail about it.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by jmn3

It’s serviceable but not nearly as endearing as Rumours. They pretty much nailed everything having to do with that album.

Agreed, the title Rumours (with the "u") gives it a certain magic.

[sue]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Agreed, the title Rumours (with the "u") gives it a certain magic.

Just the British way of spelling it..
Obv as John is British he would spell it like that.
But I wonder why they did use the British spelling ?

[soul_drifter333]

My take is that Lindsey suspected that Jimmy would try to produce the album or at least Stevie's tracks. There's a Tom Petty interview where he says that Jimmy was only suppose to be the engineer on Damn The Torpedoes but horded his way into being producer. There were a lot of power plays going on in and out of the group at this time.

Originally Posted by jmn3

This is what I would think too. Bringing Jimmy is a way to annoy Lindsey and rub her successful solo album in his face. I can get why Stevie would do it and also get why it would infuriate Lindsey. But it’s par for the course with this toxic duo.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Thank goodness for John! “Skies the Limit” is the most egregious thing Christine McVie ever put out in the world 🤣

It’s funny how some people are irritated by that! The interesting thing is, nowhere in the song does anyone sing “skies the limit.” It only appears in the title. In the song, it’s always “the sky is the limit now” and “oh, the sky is the limit.”

In terms of speaking the title, Skies the Limit rolls off the tongue better than The Sky is the Limit or The Sky’s the Limit.

Is there even such a word as sky’s?

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by sue

Just the British way of spelling it..
Obv as John is British he would spell it like that.
But I wonder why they did use the British spelling ?

I love the British spelling. Rumors would just look dumb. Like having Silver Springs on the album.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

It’s funny how some people are irritated by that! The interesting thing is, nowhere in the song does anyone sing “skies the limit.” It only appears in the title. In the song, it’s always “the sky is the limit now” and “oh, the sky is the limit.”

In terms of speaking the title, Skies the Limit rolls off the tongue better than The Sky is the Limit or The Sky’s the Limit.

Is there even such a word as sky’s?

Funny thing is that Notorious B.I.G has a song Sky's The Limit and Lil Wayne has a song The Sky Is The Limit. But none of these rappers have a cool song Skies The Limit. Another reason Chris was too cool for school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3vOeCkeCNA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtcCuO7ClT0

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by sue

Just the British way of spelling it..
Obv as John is British he would spell it like that.
But I wonder why they did use the British spelling ?

Maybe because 3 of them were British. And it does look more majestic that way. I like it.

--Lis