security shoving hot young girls in front of Lindsey?

[brocadelady]

Originally Posted by julieannboo

I was at the front last night and he kept looking at a pretty young woman right in front of him. She seemed that she was flirting right back, her boyfriend was with her, but you could tell she was such a massive fan.

Lindsey weren't bothered about me: middle age woman standing there. I think even at one point he gave me a dirty look.

LMAO!!! :-)

I was the 'pretty, young woman' (thank-you!) last night.
Lindsey was super engaged and very friendly. I came away with a warm heart, a setlist and a plectrum. I moved to the front from my seats on the third row. Lindsey interacted with my boyfriend as well as me, he and I both strummed LB's guitar and I grasped his hand; LB also exchanged a sentence or two with me and chuckled at my reply. It felt like Lindsey was playing dreamcatcher too. I put out a lot of love and energy and he was welcoming especially when I was clearly overcome and adoringly gazing. It's just the role they take, Stevie said it best in her dreamcatcher speech.

[jkmaletic]

Originally Posted by Lindsfan

I've been to quite a few shows this tour (both early on, and more recently), and that's been my experience as well



The security guy was really nice, and just made it clear that we should all (in the first 2 or 3 rows, whatever it was) feel free to come on up. It was actually appreciated, as it overrode the venue security when they weren't being so generous. I'm just an average middle-aged type, myself, and the security was as nice to me as they were to the hot, young girls. I never was asked to move over, or give up my spot. I realize it might be somewhat different with GA, but even so, it just wasn't an issu


He definitely feeds off the audience, no matter their age, gender, or physical appearance. He just never comes across as being concerned with stuff like that. Not on stage, and not in random meetings off stage. Having said that, I'm sure he probably enjoys the attention from the young ladies. Why not? But I can't see him requesting it. And frankly, there are always a fair number of hot, young people up near the front anyways, who paid for the seats, so it's not really even necessary to bring up more.

Well, I went to two shows and saw the same security guy (short, bald, goatee, yet very buff) escort groups of young chicks up in front of Lindseys mic right after the lights go out and the show is about to start. In fact, the second show I went to I actually saw that security guy scoping out chicks before the show - I ALMOST said something to him about it but Kim and I were busy enjoying our engagement and calling relatives.
I don't see anything wrong with it. I mean, good for them that get picked. I just think it's kinda funny though.

Jamie

[elle]

Originally Posted by julieannboo

I was at the front last night and he kept looking at a pretty young woman right in front of him. She seemed that she was flirting right back, her boyfriend was with her, but you could tell she was such a massive fan.

Lindsey weren't bothered about me: middle age woman standing there. I think even at one point he gave me a dirty look.

did you try to engage him? yelled or tried to say something to him? he normally interacts with people who are trying to engage him. he won't interact with you if you are just standing there trying to look pretty.

Originally Posted by brocadelady

I was the 'pretty, young woman' (thank-you!) last night.
Lindsey was super engaged and very friendly. I came away with a warm heart, a setlist and a plectrum. I moved to the front from my seats on the third row. Lindsey interacted with my boyfriend as well as me, he and I both strummed LB's guitar and I grasped his hand; LB also exchanged a sentence or two with me and chuckled at my reply. It felt like Lindsey was playing dreamcatcher too. I put out a lot of love and energy and he was welcoming especially when I was clearly overcome and adoringly gazing. It's just the role they take, Stevie said it best in her dreamcatcher speech.

see, engage him like this!! very happy for you brocadelady!

[WelshWitchPMD]

Originally Posted by elle

when i watch Lindsey's Soundstage, sometimes i do wish they handpicked some people and put them in the front - either because of looks, or reactions / dancing.

however, i do LOVE seeing our own WelshWitchPMD all over that Soundstage (plus she is hot, anyway!).

LOL. Well thank you! For LB's Soundstage we lined up at 7:30am.
I do know that when we got in there were quite a few "reserved" seats. The people I was with argued with the woman in charge and she let us sit in the front row.
As for certain types of people being let up to the front before the fans is wrong. However, I do believe it is the slimey security man who is doing it to try to get phone numbers or whatever and not the band.
I do believe the band wants people upfront. In 2009 there was a nice man named Dean who was telling fans to go up to the stage before the show started. That is a better way to do it.

[danax6]

We got asked by a African-American guy with a red cap at the entrance of the venue whether we spoke English. So he was gathering them up at the gates already. We thought he was just trying to sell us something so we replied 'no, sorry' and made our way to our seats. Only later, when we spotted him again collecting all the pretty ladies and making them wait at the sound board island, did I realize that that is what he was going to ask us, if we wanted to stand up front. Luckily he spotted us again and escorted us to 'the group'. My sister had to run back and get her coat, so we were late in arriving at the front of the stage. But clearly the band's security guards outrank the venue security, as the latter were being a bitch about us being late and didn't want to let us through, but when the guy with the red cap arrived and told him to let us pass he quickly shut up.

There weren't a lot of girls actually, the Antwerpen crowd were pretty much all middle-aged men and women. I did notice that some girls didn't seem to know the band or the music all that much and I asked them why they came to the show. Turned out that one of their friends was a huge fan and they came along to see what all the fuss was about. There were two girls who were clearly on a mission, they were skankily dressed and danced like their life depended on it, trying so very hard to get Lindsey's attention. Which he gave them, so mission accomplished. It creeped me out also, and made me very uncomfortable, the way he interacted with those girls. Of course he threw his sweaty towel at them as well.

If you want my opinion they do it because Lindsey especially likes to interact with the crowd. He feeds off of it, and of course a bunch of pretty ladies are more fun and easy to interact with than a bunch of senior citizens... For example, during Stand Back, as he was mouthing the worlds along, he tried to get everybody up front to sing it with him.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Originally Posted by danax6

We got asked by a African-American guy with a red cap at the entrance of the venue whether we spoke English. So he was gathering them up at the gates already. We thought he was just trying to sell us something so we replied 'no, sorry' and made our way to our seats. Only later, when we spotted him again collecting all the pretty ladies and making them wait at the sound board island, did I realize that that is what he was going to ask us, if we wanted to stand up front. Luckily he spotted us again and escorted us to 'the group'. My sister had to run back and get her coat, so we were late in arriving at the front of the stage. But clearly the band's security guards outrank the venue security, as the latter were being a bitch about us being late and didn't want to let us through, but when the guy with the red cap arrived and told him to let us pass he quickly shut up.

There weren't a lot of girls actually, the Antwerpen crowd were pretty much all middle-aged men and women. I did notice that some girls didn't seem to know the band or the music all that much and I asked them why they came to the show. Turned out that one of their friends was a huge fan and they came along to see what all the fuss was about. There were two girls who were clearly on a mission, they were skankily dressed and danced like their life depended on it, trying so very hard to get Lindsey's attention. Which he gave them, so mission accomplished. It creeped me out also, and made me very uncomfortable, the way he interacted with those girls. Of course he threw his sweaty towel at them as well.

If you want my opinion they do it because Lindsey especially likes to interact with the crowd. He feeds off of it, and of course a bunch of pretty ladies are more fun and easy to interact with than a bunch of senior citizens... For example, during Stand Back, as he was mouthing the worlds along, he tried to get everybody up front to sing it with him.

I don't know of the person you described but the security man that many have seen is bald with tattoos. He seems to seek out young tattooed girls.
That is great if they are fans but the people who paid big bucks to be in the front should have priority before anyone else.

Lindsey always sings Stand Back to the audience. He can be so funny sometimes.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Iktomi

Not to hijack this thread but as a young woman in her twenties (and not too far removed from her teens), I feel that it's one thing to catch an older man taking a quick look, but anything more than that, I really start to feel threatened and/or creeped out (well, in fairness, I feel uncomfortable if men of any age gawk or ogle, but there is admittedly less of a creep factor with younger men than compared to older men). In hindsight, as a well-endowed young teenager, I really, REALLY felt uncomfortable with older men checking me out. Like, my fight or flight would kick in. I think whether you resent it or not, some girls and women are going to be creeped out by you checking them out because you've reached a certain age. That might not stop you from staring, but you can't stop them from feeling creeped out, because like for me, I can't help when my feeling of fight or flight kicks in with certain men (and men of a certain age).

I think it's one thing to admire someone being attractive and taking a quick peak and another thing to feel entitled to gaze upon them just because you find them attractive. That's ignoring them as a person with feelings, and essentially, objectifying them.

Originally Posted by applebucked

True. Checking out with a quick glance is one thing. I do that from time to time. It's staring regardless of person (age, gender, etc.) that's another. If there's a large age difference, even more so.
and Seinfeld, if we're talking of Fleetwood Mac connections, always brings me to Chris.

Originally Posted by Lindsfan

No, actually it's not. It might seem odd to many, but they'd both be adults.

At any rate, there are teenagers and twenty somethings at every concert who are clearly crazy about Lindsey (or Stevie), and make no effort to hide how they feel, so it goes both ways. And that's not unique to FM. It happens with most older rockers.

If you were in a bar, a restaurant, the grocery store, just passing on a sidewalk, etc, yeah, I agree with you. But, everything changes when there's a stage & a guitar involved. I know from 1st hand experience. BEFORE a show, I could go up & talk to some hot younger woman, who would MAYBE talk to me for a couple of minutes, IF she doesn't give me the brush-off immediately. Put, me on stage playing guitar with my band and that same person would come up to ME on band break and dominate my entire breaktime and pretty much "throw herself" at me. It's the whole "man with a guitar" thing which makes AGE irrelevant (provided both meet the "consenting adult" criteria)

[poetgal]

I was at one of the US shows and ended up right next to the stage. I am 37, though, people have different definitions of young. I am not 18 by any means, but have been told I look younger. At one point, Lindsey blew a kiss my way and was engaging with me throughout the show. Let me just say, I have been a huge fan since I was 12 years old, so this was an amazing experience. I think part of the reason he noticed me was because I couldn't take my eyes off of him. I normally catch one show per tour and I was in awe of his talent. I was also singing and dancing the whole night. All and all, it was a great night and amazing show. Not sure why he noticed me, but glad he did.

[getTusked]

Originally Posted by brocadelady

I was the 'pretty, young woman' (thank-you!) last night.
Lindsey was super engaged and very friendly. I came away with a warm heart, a setlist and a plectrum. I moved to the front from my seats on the third row. Lindsey interacted with my boyfriend as well as me, he and I both strummed LB's guitar and I grasped his hand; LB also exchanged a sentence or two with me and chuckled at my reply. It felt like Lindsey was playing dreamcatcher too. I put out a lot of love and energy and he was welcoming especially when I was clearly overcome and adoringly gazing. It's just the role they take, Stevie said it best in her dreamcatcher speech.

That is awesome!! Can I ask what you mean by "love and energy" so we can all know exactly what to do to get his attention LOL. Although I feel like he probably would like to see people having fun, singing the songs and giving him attention...or maybe if you held up a sign that says "real savage like"...something that shows you are a huge Linds fan....anyway congrats on that interaction Did you get a sweat towel?

[danax6]

Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD

I don't know of the person you described but the security man that many have seen is bald with tattoos. He seems to seek out young tattooed girls.
That is great if they are fans but the people who paid big bucks to be in the front should have priority before anyone else.

For sure. They did let up the first two rows, only after that did they bring in 'the girls'.

Lindsey always sings Stand Back to the audience. He can be so funny sometimes.

Yeah, but how much fun would it be to sing it to a bunch of old people and nobody responds?

[suzyvermoesen]

Originally Posted by danax6

For sure. They did let up the first two rows, only after that did they bring in 'the girls'.

Yeah, but how much fun would it be to sing it to a bunch of old people and nobody responds?

I'm old (57) but i sure as hell would have responded. I was in row 29 at the Antwerp show and tried to get past security to get to the front but no way !
Those security nazis stayed in place until the end while usually they leave right before the encores.

[The Nisse]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Well, I went to two shows and saw the same security guy (short, bald, goatee, yet very buff) escort groups of young chicks up in front of Lindseys mic right after the lights go out and the show is about to start. In fact, the second show I went to I actually saw that security guy scoping out chicks before the show - I ALMOST said something to him about it but Kim and I were busy enjoying our engagement and calling relatives.

This is so interesting. That guy was at our show as well and guiding people around. At the time, I didn't think much of it, but now - thinking about it - I can totally see he was putting all hotties in the front. I dug my heels in, though, and in the end he gave up and let me stand at the stage. Just couldn't see the fairness in some being allowed, while others weren't. It didn't even occur to me what was going on..

As a guy, if they are doing this, I find it totally discriminating.
This isn't some bar having a Ladies' Night, this is a concert where we've all paid good money to be there..

[Houseonthehill]

Funny to read this thread. Last time I saw FM (2009), I was in the 2nd row with my then girlfriend. We were both younger in our early 20's and she is an attractive lady. There were several times that he was playing right for us (her). At one point, he kind of pointed out to us asking if we were together. I gave a thumbs up, and he gave a thumbs up too. It was a pretty funny scene.

At the end of the night he gave us one of his of course unused picks, which I thought was nice.

Great night.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

Well, I went to two shows and saw the same security guy (short, bald, goatee, yet very buff) escort groups of young chicks up in front of Lindseys mic right after the lights go out and the show is about to start. In fact, the second show I went to I actually saw that security guy scoping out chicks before the show - I ALMOST said something to him about it but Kim and I were busy enjoying our engagement and calling relatives.

i'm surprised nobody mentioned something about this happening at MGM show on dec 30th. we are talking about a whole brigade marching towards the front of the stage right before lights went down. we looked towards the aisle going to lindsey's mic, and they were standing there, maybe 20 rows of 4-5 girls, somewhere at the level of the 3rd row. it was almost ridiculous to see, like they were getting ready to go to the war or something.

[brickney723]

Wow, does Lindsey request this?? Outrageous!