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Old 02-05-2021, 06:27 PM
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It's not obvious to me when I read you'd argue it's Stevie solo

If Mac did "At Last" on their next tour, would you argue it's Stevie solo?

Just interested in the reasoning!
It’s a song she released in her solo portfolio.

ETA: Much the same way “I’d Rather Go Blind” was part of Christine’s Chicken Shack portfolio.

ETA 2: If Lindsey played “Blue Letter” during a solo show, would you think of it as a Fleetwood Mac song or a Curtis Bros. song?

ETA 3: And, if Fleetwood Mac did “At Last,” I would think of Stevie solo. Would you refer to it as an Etta James song? The first recording of the song was by the Glen Miller Orchestra in 1942, eighteen years before Etta, and was sung by a man.

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Old 02-05-2021, 07:35 PM
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It’s a song she released in her solo portfolio.

ETA: Much the same way “I’d Rather Go Blind” was part of Christine’s Chicken Shack portfolio.

ETA 2: If Lindsey played “Blue Letter” during a solo show, would you think of it as a Fleetwood Mac song or a Curtis Bros. song?

ETA 3: And, if Fleetwood Mac did “At Last,” I would think of Stevie solo. Would you refer to it as an Etta James song? The first recording of the song was by the Glen Miller Orchestra in 1942, eighteen years before Etta, and was sung by a man.
Calling Blue Letter a Fleetwood Mac song is the same as me calling Talk to Me a Stevie song.

I don't agree that Free Fallin in the 2018 setlist was a Stevie solo song. Tom's was the hit and the iconic one. Tom was in every photo on the screen behind her during the performance too. Same thing for Not Fade Away, Circle Dance, Rock and Roll, She Smiled Sweetly, I Am Waiting. Not Lindsey or Stevie's songs; they're covers.
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Calling Blue Letter a Fleetwood Mac song is the same as me calling Talk to Me a Stevie song.
The Curtis Bros. released it on an album (I have a copy).



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I don't agree that Free Fallin in the 2018 setlist was a Stevie solo song. Tom's was the hit and the iconic one.
So it’s a matter of scale, then?

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Yep. And Free Falling is a song Stevie recorded and released as a solo artist, thus it’s something I can list as a solo song for her.

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The Curtis Bros. released it on an album (I have a copy).



So it’s a matter of scale, then?


Yep. And Free Falling is a song Stevie recorded and released as a solo artist, thus it’s something I can list as a solo song for her.
What year was that Curtis Brothers album released?

For me, it's who recorded it first. Carole wrote Natural Woman but I believe it's an Aretha song.

So you would list Go Insane and Stand Back as FM songs, right?
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What year was that Curtis Brothers album released?

For me, it's who recorded it first. Carole wrote Natural Woman but I believe it's an Aretha song.
Big difference. Carole King was a staff songwriter who later became a solo artist.

The Curtis Bros. didn’t write “Blue Letter” for Buckingham Nicks or Fleetwood Mac. They wrote it for their band and always intended to release their own version. They happened to be recording at Sound City and Fleetwood Mac liked the song.

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Would you say the version of “Stand Back” that appears on The Chain was by Stevie Nicks or Fleetwood Mac?

You’re making way too much of this. Stevie’s cover of Free Fallin’ was part of her solo portfolio. She recorded and released it. End of discussion for me.
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Old 02-05-2021, 09:33 PM
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The Curtis Bros. didn’t write “Blue Letter” for Buckingham Nicks or Fleetwood Mac. They wrote it for their band and always intended to release their own version. They happened to be recording at Sound City and Fleetwood Mac liked the song.
Fleetwood Mac did release their recording before Curtis Brothers did. Hence to me, it's a Fleetwood Mac song. End of discussion.


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Would you say the version of “Stand Back” that appears on The Chain was by Stevie Nicks or Fleetwood Mac?
I would say it's a Stevie Nicks song. Stand Back is on Lead Vocalist by Rod Stewart. It's not a Rod Stewart solo song, it's a Stevie Nicks song

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Old 02-05-2021, 10:07 PM
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I would say it's a Stevie Nicks song. Stand Back is on Lead Vocalist by Rod Stewart. It's not a Rod Stewart solo song, it's a Stevie Nicks song
Out of morbid curiosity, what would you say about “Black Magic Woman” or “Feelin’ Alright.”

Speaking of Joe Cocker, if he had ever joined Fleetwood Mac, would “With A Little Help From My Friends” been a Beatles cover or something from Joe Cocker’s career outside of Fleetwood Mac?
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I was watching the last tour with Glenn. They did Boys of Summer, Sunset Grill, Dirty Laundry, All She Wants to do is dance, and New York Minute.
I regularly watch Farewell I, and History OTE. They've practically displaced FM in my regular ~watching~ of music. I never lived and breathed their every breath like FM, but their live releases easily outpaced FM.

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Old 02-06-2021, 09:12 AM
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Out of morbid curiosity, what would you say about “Black Magic Woman” or “Feelin’ Alright.”

Speaking of Joe Cocker, if he had ever joined Fleetwood Mac, would “With A Little Help From My Friends” been a Beatles cover or something from Joe Cocker’s career outside of Fleetwood Mac?
Sure, I'm willing to assist your morbid curiosity
I believe BMW is a Fleetwood Mac song that Santana covered. I believe Feelin Alright is a Traffic song.

If Cocker was in the 2018 lineup of FM, and FM played With a Little Help, they'd be covering a Beatles song. And I believe that if they played the Cocker sounding one, it's still a Beatles cover and not a Joe Cocker song.
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Old 02-06-2021, 10:16 AM
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I believe Feelin Alright is a Traffic song.
Now, how does the fact that Dave Mason plays the Joe Cocker version, not the Traffic version, play into this? Is it Dave Mason covering Joe Cocker covering Dave Mason? Did Dave enter some weird dimension where he somehow ended up covering himself?
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Old 02-06-2021, 10:21 AM
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Did Dave enter some weird dimension where he somehow ended up covering himself?
Now why are you acting like this? I've been very respectful in this conversation.
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Old 02-06-2021, 10:26 AM
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Now, how does the fact that Dave Mason plays the Joe Cocker version, not the Traffic version, play into this? Is it Dave Mason covering Joe Cocker covering Dave Mason?
Does Joe Cocker have any songwriting credit for Feelin Alright? I don't know if he does.

To me, Dave Mason would be singing his song. Just a different sounding one than the original
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Old 02-06-2021, 02:53 PM
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I believe BMW is a Fleetwood Mac song that Santana covered.
it's similar (although much earlier and different musical genre) as I Will Always Love You - a Dolly Parton song that Whitney Houston's version took to stratosphere.

and on much smaller scale what Dixie Chicks did with Landslide. in that case, Stevie took Landslide back, after it became big.
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