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Oh, and here's my unpopular Stevie opinion -- I'm tired of fans saying she's "only in it for the money."
Do I believe the woman likes being rich? Of course I do. But 40 years in, I'm not sure why she has to keep proving to people that it's about more than just the money for her. She could have easily sold off her publishing rights for millions and retired years ago, if that's all she cared about. Meanwhile, she's still recording (17 songs over the past few years) and writing. |
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You know, I posted awhile back on this topic "Stevie in it for the $". I don't believe this is ALL true. I truely believe that Stevie likes being in a "live" RnR band, she has told us this numerous times, and I don't doubt it. Am I naive to believe that she doesn't like to earn money? Hell no, and I don't fault her for it. She could very well call FM quits and be done. Do her "side" work and be fulfilled artistically and finacially. I may be alone in this opinion, but I believe Stevie can not/will not let go of Mac. She will never be able to face "Yesterday's Gone" when it comes to the band. There is her love affair with the past, the band's legacy, and the bands members (read into what you like) that will always draw Stevie back in. Aside from this fact, I do believe she considers her bandmates her long-term friends, which she should. She has this need to be needed and helpful. Stevie sees this as an opportunity to make some money, (hopefully) have some fun, and also help her mates out in the process. Let's not even bring up the fact that Jess and Barbara fixed her and Chris up pretty nicely in recent years. I think that she gets alot of flack for "doing it for the money" b/c she will not/is not interested in creating a new album with Mac. It's not as if Stevie has a house full of children/teens and another mortgage to pay off or even a brand new restaurant in Maui. Stevie is stepping up to the mike to help her old mates out. Of course, she is doing it for the money and the spotlight, too. But she is doing it with an open heart and is genuinely concerned for her friends. Her heart is in the right place, even if she just "phones" in her performances...all that tells me, as a fan is that she often has true intentions in the "grand idea" of things and gets bored very easy when the band tours for a whole year or so. |
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For me. at least, the "in it for the money" thing is a result of her reluctance to record. She let 4 years pass between The Dance and TISL, content to cruise on a retrospective - Enchanted. She let 9 years elapse between TISL and IYD, content to cruise on two retrospectives - Soundstage and Crystal Visions. She now balks at recording with FM. During all this time, she has toured, making money off of the concerts. If, as many here seem to agree, there is no money in recording, then that is probably why she is so unproductive, and prefers to tour. Therefore she is in the business for the money. All this is just fine as a business model. But touring and singing the same songs over and over for decades is not making art. Art implies creation, and that implies new music.
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Once the 'Enchanted' promotion and tour was wrapped up, she went right into working on 'TISL.' As Sheryl Crow was Stevie's choice for producer, she had to work around Sheryl's own recording & touring schedule. When they saw that it was taking too long to finish Stevie's album, John Shanks was brought in to help finish it (as was David Kahne and Pierre Marchand). And don't forget that, between 'TISL' and 'IYD,' we got 10 new Stevie songs with Fleetwood Mac. Meanwhile, both 'Soundstage' and 'Crystal Visions' might not have included any newly-penned songs, but she did put a personal effort into making both packages stand out. Mind you -- I'm not saying that there wasn't way too long of a gap between new songs for my taste. I just think we should remember that Stevie wasn't at home with her feet up on the couch the entire time. Quote:
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Johnny Stew: "all those years of writing like mad and recording tons of material"
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My point was that she -- in my opinion -- has more than earned the right to not have her artistic integrity questioned, even if she never records another song. She's paid her dues and she certainly shouldn't have to keep proving herself to anyone at this stage. |
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Exactly, it's not about the money for new recordings, most of that goes straight to the big record company anyway . Stevie's far from ignorant, and must know, at her age, her selling marketability is limited. Sure, a hit single will sell more concert tickets, but Stevie is already a proven commodity. So while IYD may not have been cash cow, platinum selling album for Stevie, it was far from a flop. It was a creative resurgence, not only for Stevie, who had long started peppering her set-list with numerous covers to avoid sleep-walking through her set. But more importantly for her fans! "In Your Dreams" single-handidly reaffirmed and revitalized her hardcore fans who were beginning to grow weary & unimpressed (myself included) If it weren't for the hundreds of bootlegs to sustain my interest for over 15 years and IYD hadn't come along when it did, I would have lost interest @4 years ago, after the "Greatest Hits" w/ a deep cut or two thrown in - Unleashed concert tour of 09'. This coming from a fan of over 30+ years!
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Hi On Ice! I'm sorry it's taken so long for me to get back to you. If this happened, if she got real with herself and us, we would see a different Stevie Nicks. I think that because she gets so much love from us that she thinks we love EVERYTHING she does. She gets our approval at every show. But when it comes to asking us how we feel...she doesn't ask us. And we can't ask her because there is no way to ask her. She sings for us but won't talk to us. This changed when she recently did the q and a's for the doc, and talked to the fans. For the first time, she addressed us. This, after no other way to contact her. Had I been there, I would have told her about my love for some of her demos. I would not have cared about her reaction. I would have been nervous. But I would still tell her. At these q and a's she admitted that she knows we would love a piano and Stevie tour, no other instruments. She said it would be great, but not practical. I think it's easier for her to do the same songs because it's less work for her. I think her concerts are easy money for her...she knows what to do. Is she milking us? Sometimes, when I look at it, yes, she is milking us. I think it's all about respect. Does she respect us? At the q and a for the doc, in the video I saw of the event, at the end when fans are outside waiting for her to exit the theater, she walks right by them and gets into her SUV. In my opinion, she could have stopped and talked with them. They were few in number. But she just got into her car with Karen. These fans are the ones who make sure Stevie has a nice house to live in. I would think that she would take the time to greet them. I've seen and heard of this behavior of her's way too much by other fans and it disappoints me no end. I've heard of people coming from out of state to a show and standing in the cold. She lets them stand there. To defend Stevie on this, she learned how to tour from Fleetwood Mac. And being in a huge band, they, I guess, didn't stop to greet fans as much. I am guessing. So she doesn't do it in her solo career either. Stevie made it known at the q and a's, that she knows what we want. She knows we want to hear different songs. She knows we want more new material. I guess it's just a matter of doing it. She knows some of us want to hear Sisters of the Moon at this coming concert. We love Stevie too much to miss a show, either hers or FM's. But what other way can it be shown her that we are tired of the same ol'? I guess if we stopped paying for the same show? I don't blame you for sitting out this coming show. I sat out the IYD shows after her mom died. In the end, I agree with you that she doesn't get the fan experience, our experience. I also think it's about laziness. It's about singing Landslide over and over. It's about not respecting us, her fans. Last edited by NoLight77; 03-10-2013 at 01:50 AM.. |
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Lady from the Mountain in the 70's, 80's, did not have the lyrics: "She's lonely, lost, disconnected. She finds no comfort in her surroundings. Beautiful, insecure, she has nothing. She moves from situation to situation like a ghost." These are new lyrics she added to it. As for Melbourne, I'm going to agree with Johnny Stew who said it was probably meant more for audio, because yes, at the end she didn't change out of her B and B outfit for Dreams and Outside the Rain. As for her botox, what a time to get it when you do an album with an orchestra!!! Another miss in Stevie's career. When it comes to the Crystal Visions cd, I just wish that the picture on the cover would match the music inside. The 80's picture would better match either a live album, or a rarities album. Not another greatest hits, which is all Stevie knew how to do before IYD. As for her ignoring the other half of her solo career, good question. She could do Smile At You live now! Even though it's on SYW, she could do it solo! Why not? Yeah, she won't release the piano demos. And as a result, lots of people don't know what Stevie is capable of! SO many beautiful songs, all collecting dust in her vault. Last edited by NoLight77; 03-10-2013 at 01:57 AM.. |
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