Article: Fleetwood Mac's Stevie Nicks sent a letter to Lindsey.

[bombaysaffires]

wait, wait, wait.... what f&*&*&g delusional drugs is she on now???


She added that she “never planned” for Buckingham to leave the band and was “disappointed” when it happened. “Any time we re-formed to do a tour or a record, I always walked in with hope in my heart. And I just was so disappointed. I felt like all the wind had gone out of my sails,” she said.

Does she mean when she PUSHED him out?? She acts like somehow it was HIS idea.... He didn't "leave the band" he got FIRED. She was so "disappointed"... BULL EFFING CRAP. It was her INTENTION. Who the f%^k says "It's me or him" and then doesn't think that ONE OF YOU ISN'T GOING TO BE GOING ON THAT TOUR..???????

[bombaysaffires]

can anyone put a copy of the full article on here? it's locked behind an LAT paywall.

[michelej1]

The moonlight confessions of Stevie Nicks

Stevie Nicks
“It makes me very, very sad,” says Nicks of the split with her former romantic partner and bandmate Lindsey Buckingham.(Christopher Buzelli / For The Times)

By AMY KAUFMANSTAFF WRITER SEP. 30, 202012:08 PM

Stevie Nicks was in her early 30s when her father told her she’d never get married.

She had just released her solo album, 1981’s “Bella Donna,” embarking on a second career that would fill any time she wasn’t spending with Fleetwood Mac. Her music, Nicks’ dad said, would always consume her.

She considered the possibility. She certainly was not a woman who liked to be told what to do. Still, the words stung: “No man would be happy being Mr. Stevie Nicks for very long.” Had he doomed her to a life of solitude simply by speaking the thought into existence?

“Nobody,” she laughs now, decades later, “dooms me to anything but myself.”

At 72, Nicks has had a few great loves. Some we know about — Lindsey Buckingham, Don Henley, JD Souther — and many we don’t. She did get married once, back in 1983, an ill-fated three-month relationship with the husband of her best friend, who had just died of leukemia. She would have considered taking another spouse, had she met the right person — someone who wasn’t jealous of her, who got a kick out of her crazy girlfriends. But ultimately, her father pretty much got it right: She has yet to feel more devoted toward a man than her muse.

Which is why, in part, this pandemic has hit her so hard. Two projects due out this month have, she says, offered a vestige of normalcy: “24 Karat Gold: The Concert,” a cinematic version of her 2017 solo show, and a politically minded new single, “Show Them the Way,” which will be accompanied by a Cameron Crowe-directed music video. She’s also decided that she wants to make another solo album and plans to spend the rest of quarantine turning the poetry from her journals into lyrics.

But with touring on hold, she’s bored and depressed, conditions she’s claimed to never before suffer from. She’s cripplingly afraid of catching the coronavirus, fearing that going on a ventilator would leave her hoarse and ruin her voice.

“I have put a magical shield around me, because I am not going to give up the last eight years — what I call my last youthful years — of doing this,” she vows. “I want to be able to pull up those black velvet platform boots and put on my black chiffon outfit and twirl onto a stage again.”

It’s 9 p.m. on a Saturday when Nicks first calls from her home in the Pacific Palisades, where she has been sequestered with a close friend, her assistant and her housekeeper.

She has always been a night owl, but has recently become nocturnal, typically going to bed around 8 a.m. She attributes the change in her sleep pattern to the news, which she says she watches constantly. Usually, she likes to open the French doors to her bedroom, but tonight it’s dark outside because of the wildfires — “and not like, foggy, romantic dark. It’s just weird dark.” The smoke and ash in the air triggers her asthma, so she is not even venturing into her backyard.

Nicks is speaking from a landline. She has a personal line that she dances around when it rings, wondering “Who could it be? Is this a two-hour call? Is this going to be a tragedy?” and an emergency line to which her assistant attends. She does not have a computer. She does have an iPhone, but it doesn’t have cellular service and she uses it only as a camera.

Despite her distaste for social media, Nicks has gone viral a few times in recent months. Earlier this week, the internet discovered a TikTok video in which “doggface208" skateboards while singing along to Fleetwood Mac’s “Dreams,” swigging from a container of cran-raspberry juice and generally living his best life.


After the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Nicks paid tribute to the Supreme Court justice, admitting her into the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of Life.” (Nicks is the only woman to be inducted twice into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, first with Fleetwood Mac in 1998 and then on her own in 2019.) The reactions to the RBG post were largely positive, but she saw one comment that ignored her sentiment entirely and instead lambasted her for her band’s interpersonal drama.

“They didn’t even care about what I had written about Ruth and went right to the breakup of Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey Buckingham,” she says. “I was like, ‘We’re talking about the death of a great Supreme Court judge, and you are yelling at me about something that happened two-and-a-half years ago? What are you, insane?’ I’m reeling from it. But I’m also like, OK: I can never be on social media.”

Nicks’ troll was referring to the highly publicized 2018 firing of Buckingham, who joined Fleetwood Mac as a lead guitarist and vocalist alongside then-girlfriend Nicks in 1974. The group’s tumult is the stuff of music legend: After ending her on-off again relationship with Buckingham, in 1977 Nicks had a brief affair with then-married drummer Mick Fleetwood. Singer Christine McVie, meanwhile, was in the midst of her own clandestine relationship with the band’s lighting director, ultimately leading to her divorce from bassist John McVie.

With the exception of a decade-long hiatus to focus on his solo career in the ‘90s, however, Buckingham remained with Fleetwood Mac until January 2018, when he claims he was unceremoniously let go. Together, they’d made an indelible mark on music history. Hits like “Dreams,” “Rhiannon,” “Landslide,” “The Chain” and “Gypsy” are now rock canon. 1977’s “Rumours” was No. 1 in the U.S. for 31 weeks, and subsequent tours over the decades showcased not just an incomparable baby-boomer songbook but the scars left from the band’s never-ending soap operas — Buckingham and Nicks frequently shot eye daggers at each other in front of packed stadiums during renditions of breakup anthems like “Go Your Own Way” and “Silver Springs.”

When Buckingham was axed from the group, he sued for lost wages — claiming he would have collected between $12 million and $14 million in two months of touring with Fleetwood Mac. (He was replaced by Mike Campbell of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and Crowded House’s Neil Finn.) In legal documents, Buckingham says his firing came days after the band’s appearance at the January 2018 MusiCares Person of the Year ceremony. He alleges that he was later told that Nicks thought he’d mocked her on stage at the event while she was delivering a speech; she was apparently so upset that she told the rest of Fleetwood Mac she’d walk if he wasn’t cut from the band.

Nicks is reluctant to discuss the details of that night, though she admits it was the “straw that broke the camel’s back.”

“I never planned for that to happen,” she says hesitantly. “Any time we re-formed to do a tour or a record, I always walked in with hope in my heart. And I just was so disappointed. I felt like all the wind had gone out of my sails.”


There’s melancholy in her voice when she discusses the split, which she describes as a “long time coming.” She was always hopeful that “things would get better” but found herself noticing she was increasingly sad with Fleetwood Mac and more at peace in the “good, creative happy world” with her solo band.

“I just felt like a dying flower all the time,” she says. “I stayed with him from 1968 until that night. It’s a long time. And I really could hear my parents — I could hear my mom saying, ‘Are you really gonna do this for the rest of your life?’ And I could hear my dad saying in his very pragmatic way — because my dad really liked Lindsey —‘I think it’s time for you and Lindsey to get a divorce.’ It’s a very unfortunate thing. It makes me very, very sad.”

She says she hasn’t spoken to Buckingham in a couple of years, though she did write him a note after his February 2019 heart attack: “You better take care of yourself. You better take it easy and you better do everything they tell you and get your voice back and feel the grace that you have made it through this.”

Nicks has cataloged the ups and downs of her life in journals — she estimates she has roughly one per year of her life — and she plans to leave many of them to her goddaughters, of whom she has 11 or 12; she can’t be certain. She chose most of her goddaughters at birth — asking their parents if she could fulfill the role — and relishes the way they keep her “totally young and up on everything.” She loves to spoil them all with gifts imbued with meaning, like a pair of pink strappy heels she found at a store in Australia and deemed “Cinderella slippers.”

Tokens are important to Nicks. In 1977, she began having gold moon necklaces made to give as gifts to those she felt needed them. Over the years, she’s bestowed them to celebrities (the Haim sisters, Taylor Swift, Tavi Gevinson), soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and Make-a-Wish recipients. Members of the coven — her “Sisters of the Moon” — are told the moons are lucky charms and to pass them along to another in need, should the moment arise.

Nicks is wearing the signature necklace in “24 Karat Gold,” the concert special slated to play in theaters for two nights only, Oct. 21 and 25. (A CD version comes out Oct. 30; streaming plans for the film have yet to be determined.)


In May, Nicks flew to Chicago, where Joe Thomas, the film’s director, was finessing a cut of it. The final version features 17 songs, only four of which are Fleetwood Mac hits. The show emphasizes Nicks’ solo career — MTV standards like “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around,” “Stand Back” and “Edge of Seventeen.” Performing music from her “dark, gothic trunk of lost songs,” she tells the audience, makes her feel like she’s a 20-year-old embarking on a new career. “This is not the same Stevie Nicks show you’ve seen a million times,” she explains, “because I am different.”

“This is the show where you get to meet this girl, finally,” says guitarist Waddy Wachtel, who served as the tour’s musical director and has known Nicks since 1970. “She can relax and work her own rhythm. It’s a joy to see her get into her own songs instead of fighting to get her due in a band where there are three really strong songwriters.”

On the road, Wachtel says, Nicks travels via private plane because she has declared herself too old for tour buses. She loves lavish hotel rooms with pianos, a perk Wachtel thinks she’s earned: “She doesn’t have a husband. She doesn’t have a boyfriend. She wants a good room to be able to play her music as loud as she wants.”

Nicks was just as specific when it came to editing the concert film. In the editing suite with Thomas, she insisted that “dorky” overusage of the phrase “like” be excised and was exacting when it came to the way she looked.

“He’d show me something and I’m, like, ‘Are you serious? You’re actually thinking about using that horrifically bad shot of me?’” she recalls, describing how she’d proceed to pace the room, popping breath mints into her mouth. “If you’re a woman and you’re not 30, you want to look as good as you can. You start to realize that men see women completely differently than we see ourselves.”


Nicks cares about her appearance and has been on Weight Watchers since 2005. She’s never considered being a spokeswoman for the brand because she prefers to follow one of the company’s now-defunct plans from 15 years ago. One of the biggest reasons she wants to stay in shape is because her stage clothes are custom-made, and she says it would be too costly and annoying to have them remade.

She traces the origin of her style — an amalgam of goth hippie, bohemian Californian girl and Victorian priestess — to 1970, when she and Buckingham were still an eponymous duo. Before their show at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, Nicks saw a woman walk by on the street. She was a vision in mauve and pink, with an edged-out layered skirt, riding jacket and cream-colored platform boots. Her hair was done like a Gibson Girl. And Nicks wanted to be her.

“This girl obviously had some money, because this was not a cheap outfit. It was beautiful, and I went, ‘Oh, that’s exactly how I want to look,’” she remembers. Still, she wore her street clothes on stage for another year until a friend introduced her to a designer who helped her bring her vision to life. On paper, Nicks sketched a stick girl with bell sleeves and a top hat. She has never gone on stage without some version of this uniform since — save for a stint in the early 2000s, when she hurt her hip and was forced to wear tennis shoes.


She put on some of these clothes for the first time a few nights ago, filming the music video for her new song inside her home. Without her makeup artist on hand, it took her three hours to put on her face. The eyeliner, she says, was the most difficult part, because she had to redo it “about 50 times.” But the experience made her feel like herself again: “It was like, ‘Oh, I’m still alive.’”

“Show Them the Way,” due Oct. 9, was born out of a dream Nicks had in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. In it, she was invited to perform at a political benefit for icons of history. Martin Luther King Jr. led her by the arm into a ballroom where John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy and John Lewis were seated, awaiting her. The dream was so vivid that the instant she awoke, she wrote it down and within days, put it to music.

But it was only this year that she decided to record it for release — viewing it as a hopeful balm during this “very strange and dangerous time.” And though she expresses displeasure with the current political landscape, she stops short of endorsing any candidate.

“As we get closer to the election, I probably will state who I am for,” she says. “But not now. Well — I’m not for Trump, so that’s that.”


She says she has been “brokenhearted” since the death of Ginsburg. Nicks believes that people like Ginsburg go to heaven, where they continue to look down on us. After the death of her mother in 2012, Nicks started to believe that the dead send signs to the living. Five months after her mom passed, Nicks contracted a head infection. Her doctor instructed her to drink electrolytes, so she began “pounding” Diet Gatorade. Before long, she was also suffering from acid reflux.

“It was burning up my chest and my throat,” she says. “And all of a sudden, I felt this little tap on my shoulder and heard my mom go: ‘It’s the Gatorade.’”

There have been countless other moments like this since. If she can’t find something — an errant earring, a pack of matches, a book of poetry — she voices the item aloud and her mom helps her find it.

“It’s so real and creepy, and I always just go ‘Thank you, Barbara.’ I sometimes feel I have more of a relationship with my mom since she’s been dead than I did before she died.”

Nicks has long felt a connection to the spiritual world. For years, one of her goals has been to make a movie about the mythological Celtic deity Rhiannon. When she wrote the song “Rhiannon” in 1973, she had little knowledge of the folklore behind the name. But five years later, a fan sent her four paperback novels in a Manila envelope — author Evangeline Walton’s adaptation of the ancient British Mabinogion. Nicks was so transfixed by the literature that she eventually bought the rights to Walton’s work in the hopes of bringing the epic to the big screen.

Because of the scope of the story, it was later decided that the movie should be a television miniseries, and earlier this year Nicks says she finally signed a deal with a studio to make it. She has 10 songs that she’s never released, still on cassette tapes in a suitcase, set aside specifically for the project.

Despite her 2014 turn on “American Horror Story,” Nicks has no plans to play a major role in the miniseries, though she’s not opposed to the idea of “riding by on a white horse or something.” She won’t dish on her dream cast but says that Harry Styles “is definitely in the running.”


“I’m going, ‘Harry, you cannot age one day. You have to stay exactly as you are,’” she says with a laugh. “I’ve already sold him on it.”

Styles is one of the many young artists who counts Nicks as both a mentor and an inspiration. Before he finished his latest record, “Fine Line,” he invited Nicks and five of her friends to his home to listen to it. They sat in his living room and listened to the whole album three times, sharing opinions until sunrise. When the 26-year-old debuted the record at the Forum late last year, he invited Nicks to join him on stage for a rendition of “Landslide” — “a huge thrill, because he made a choice to be a rock ‘n’ roll star and not a pop star,” she says. “That was a risk for a guy from a boy band. That was like Fleetwood Mac doing ‘Tusk’ after ‘Rumours.’ I was very proud of him.”

Asked if an older version of Styles would be her type, Nicks chuckles.

“Well, that would be a good thing,” she says. She hasn’t been in love since the early 2000s but has no plans to “sit in a bar with a bunch of my friends and wait for some weirdo guys to come over and buy us drinks” once the pandemic ends.

“Now, if I was even, like, 30 or 40 or 50, I would never use a dating app. I find that to be totally desperate,” Nicks says. “I watch all those crime shows. Are you setting yourself up with an ax murderer or something?

There’s a big part of her that believes you’ll never find something if you’re looking for it. But at her core, Nicks is a romantic — a woman who says she’s fallen in love at first sight four times and thinks her next paramour might always be around the next corner. “It’s not ever out of the realm of possibility. It’s just not very probable,” she sighs.

For now, love lives on in her music.

“I can sit down at the piano and take out a poem that I wrote right in the middle of a really great relationship and make it into a song. Right now, at 72 years old. So when people say, ‘Can you still write romantic songs?’ I absolutely can.”

[johnnystorms]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Ok let me put my trained statement analysis to work:

A few things really floored me. First was her acknowledging fan pushback on her RBG tribute to bring up Lindsey. Used it as if she was the victim.

Notice how she kept saying this was long over due and it was going on for a very long time however she NEVER explains what it was. What exactly has Lindsey been doing to you for so many years that you finally had a breaking point? Tell us. If it was something so bad, the readers would understand. She has never said why. Mick only hinted that Stevie thought Lindsey was mocking her at the awards ceremony.

Spill the beans if you were treated so bad. Good grief you make tens of millions of dollars on tour with the Mac, take separate limos to shows, stay in different hotel rooms and barely see Lindsey.

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by johnnystorms

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

Yup. She then, at practically 70 years of age, finally said enough is enough. As was her right.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by johnnystorms

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

THOSE are the reasons??!!

If those are the reasons I would be firing people all day.

The way you assert yourself—which I acknowledge is HARD—is to say “No” and continue on with your job. She already had the power and leverage. It’s not Lindsey’s fault she didn’t know that. So while it was her right to do, it was not right to do—for Lindsey or for her.

[bombaysaffires]

thanks for posting the full article, Michele. For whatever reason, I was able to access it without the paywall coming up through their Twitter link. But it's great to have these articles embedded here for archival purposes in case the links get removed.

Stevie's a big girl. She knows how to push back and say no to LB. Witness the infamous Bob Dylan conversation. It is beyond belief that she would wear a cardigan onstage because he "insisted" on it. Please.

Also, her assertion that she can still write romantic songs.... that's a very clever and subtle way to push back on the obvious fact that she isn't writing any songs and finds it too hard. She herself (in typical Stevie revisionist history) said just a few months back that she was quarantining in her big house with a bunch of her god daughters and that they were saying to her "ooh let's use this time to record a bunch of songs" and her response was that that was easy for people to say because THEY didn't have to write the songs, SHE did and she hasn't been able to write. (She just left out that she hasn't written for a long time, not just during covid.)

Funny she now wants to do a solo record. Though without a new product or tour to plug she can't do the big publicity pushes and get herself all over the media. And without any new FM albums or tours in the offing, she's either got to crank out a solo project or fade into the background. Remember a few years ago when that was her dream.... she got her trailer in Malibu to retreat to and was so distressed because she'd been so busy with work commitments that she hadn't had any time to furnish or decorate it? All the years whining about wanting to retreat to a castle on a cliff overlooking the ocean......blah blah blah. She's got that fabulous penthouse hanging over the beach and she still isn't happy. her career really is the only thing she's got. It's getting truly rather sad.

[bombaysaffires]

Her quote about CSN:

"I've had my problems with FM. But when he (Crosby) said that he never sees them or talks to them? That's hard for me, because I just want it to not be that way. I want him to be friends with those people and I want those people to forgive him for whatever it is that they're angry with him for. I want them to get back together and put their ear monitors in and go out and sing. I just wish that they could put that behind them somehow and understand what it would mean to all of us. It would mean everything to me to be able to hear them sing. To do one more, like, small, cool, acoustic tour where they sang all those songs that we all love so much. I feel like it's not gonna happen, and I know that he's not in the best of health. And so that is even scarier. Because you don't want them to waste time. I want them all to forgive each other. And if they're so made at him, I want them to forgive him. Because they went through so much together. Just listening to him talk about how he loved many women and he wasn't a very good boyfriend and he drug a lot of people down-- it's like, you know, that was then, and **** happens. You just want to be able to go 'we were one of the greatest trios to ever walk the face of this earth. Ever.' And probably inspired more people in the music business than anybody".

so much to unravel in this. Does she ever actually LISTEN to what she says?
It's so typical Stevie-- bad behavior should be ignored, there's nothing she does that should be unforgiven, but you know, if she's mad at someone else that's different. I'd argue the Beatles inspired far more people in the music biz than anyone, and maybe Elvis.
Call me when you've taken your own advice, sister, and made amends to FM and thought about THOSE fans. It would mean everything to hear the 3 singers in FM sing together again; it would slay me to hear Buckingham Nicks sing Frozen Love just once live. SHE ruined that dream; she pooped on FM fans, so remember that when you want CSN to do what YOU can't seem to do.
FM ain't getting any younger; LB had a frigging heart attack; they're all pushing 80. Look in the mirror mirror, street angel.

[FuzzyPlum]

She's chicken oriental

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

THOSE are the reasons??!!

If those are the reasons I would be firing people all day.

The way you assert yourself—which I acknowledge is HARD—is to say “No” and continue on with your job. She already had the power and leverage. It’s not Lindsey’s fault she didn’t know that. So while it was her right to do, it was not right to do—for Lindsey or for her.

The cardigan thing was about rebranding the band. Going modern rather than baroque and gaudy. Ultimately Stevie brought out the shiny costumes and stuff which I love. I especially loved the coat she wore for Gypsy in 03 and the big red Sara kimono.

I mean it's not like Lindsey put a gun to her head about the clothes. She coulda said go frig yourself or told Mick about it.

[elle]

i don't get this cardigan story. when were FM members telling each other what to wear? they were always disjointed in their clothing styles and known for it, referred to as looking like they are going to 5 separate parties.

and if the guy not known for any particular style tries to tell a woman who is in fact famous for having a style , how would she just not tell him to shove it and do whatever she wanted? same way as she did with the Bob Dylan thing which was a polite constructive suggestion and she had no problem telling him no. so why would she instead try to please him about clothes?

makes no sense at all.

[michelej1]

The cardigan thing is ridiculous. Stevie’s fans want her to be a fierce diva and a delicate hot house flower all at the same time. Stevie wore the sweater because she wanted to. She wore it to functions that were not associated with FM. Apparently, she liked it. Did Lindsey complain about her clothes? Probably he complains about a lot of stuff. He always has. I don’t think that stopped her when they were in their twenties and it sure didn’t stop her for SYW.

It is just like when Lindsey teased her about taking the mic off the stand and accused her of being a Vegas act like Sammy Davis Junior. Apparently that crushed her spirit so much that she almost needed psychiatric care. Her fans murmur, “It is not what he says. It’s the way that he says it.”

But apparently the way that she and Mick used her leverage to kick him out of the band that he carried on his back and scoffed when he soon needed heart surgery that left him without his voice is no big deal. Sweater that.

[michelej1]

But the fact that no one has any examples except his “you’re using the wrong pronoun” is proof that the guy has done nothing to her except be a trivial annoyance, which is apparently not allowed in the Queen's presence.

This has been true for decades. I remember when she used to give interviews saying he was “mean to me“. What the heck does that mean. That you gave him an album and he left it sitting on the stair? Attila the Hun used to do stuff like that. So, she has a point. In fact not only did he spear babies but I don’t believe Attila has ever heard Bella Donna to this day.

But that is what being “mean” to her consists of, his sideways glares. Nothing more. It reminds me of Robert Browning’s “My Last Duchess”. The guy did away with his wife because she smiled too often and the smiles she bestowed on peasants was the same smile she gave him. That could not be tolerated. Stevie wanted Lindsey to bow down to her and to Karen because she was the biggest audience draw. Lindsey did not because he foolishly believed that he had something to do with the legacy she is lauded for and had no cause to bow down.

[BigAl84]

I love how the Karens of the Stevie world bring up the Dylan exchange but they ALWAYS leave out that bit where he very politely said "OK, it's your song I just thought I would bring it up"

Not to mention it's visibly clear he was hesitant to bring it up, he knew he was stepping into delicate waters.

Oooph big bad Lindsey being a jerk...hmm k.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Her quote about CSN:

"I've had my problems with FM. But when he (Crosby) said that he never sees them or talks to them? That's hard for me, because I just want it to not be that way. I want him to be friends with those people and I want those people to forgive him for whatever it is that they're angry with him for. I want them to get back together and put their ear monitors in and go out and sing. I just wish that they could put that behind them somehow and understand what it would mean to all of us. It would mean everything to me to be able to hear them sing. To do one more, like, small, cool, acoustic tour where they sang all those songs that we all love so much. I feel like it's not gonna happen, and I know that he's not in the best of health. And so that is even scarier. Because you don't want them to waste time. I want them all to forgive each other. And if they're so made at him, I want them to forgive him. Because they went through so much together. Just listening to him talk about how he loved many women and he wasn't a very good boyfriend and he drug a lot of people down-- it's like, you know, that was then, and **** happens. You just want to be able to go 'we were one of the greatest trios to ever walk the face of this earth. Ever.' And probably inspired more people in the music business than anybody".


Call me when you've taken your own advice, sister, and made amends to FM and thought about THOSE fans.

this quote is just so... weird? is she really that oblivious? or she knows exactly what she is doing?

she answered her own question irom this same interview here, about why are Fleetwood Mac fans on her social media so mad about her breaking up the band, and never being able to have the Classic Mac together again.

and then - the person who is wronged and the rest of the band doesn't want to talk to should somehow try to approach them? not the people who ghosted and wronged that person, people who do wrong don't owe any apologies? that's some warped logic right there.

then again looking at history, it's pretty consistent:

• she dumps the guy and writes songs making it look like he dumped her;
• she gets the guy fired and talks like he somehow fired himself and she was begging him to stay so now she's oh so sad. (and of course she got him fired because she was oh so sad every time she would see him )