Monday Morning and Warm Ways as the white album’s first U.S. singles?

[jmn3]

Yeah I’m going to defer to Christine on this one. “This is the first single we ever had from the uh…White Fleetwood Mac album……you can take me to paradise..”

[HomerMcvie]

WE know more about the band than "the experts", especially when it comes to a 48yo album. Do you think he's been debating crap about a dinosaur band for the past 48 years?

[dougl]

Originally Posted by KenB

I googled his name “Kenneth Paule,” and didn’t find anything related to Warner Brothers, so who knows. But Wikipedia can be edited by anyone so it certainly isn’t a reliable source either.

Further detection:
Kenneth Richard Paule, Producer, is an American Entertainment Executive who was born in Nagoya, Japan to a father who was a Col. in the US Air Force and served for 26 years as a fighter pilot and a mother who worked in the theatre at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington, DC for 25 years.

He was raised in Washington, DC and attended The American University. He began his career as a Travel Coordinator for a private airline company, traveling with rock stars on tour 1978-1980. Following that he began working for screen legend Elizabeth Taylor when she made her Broadway debut in "The Little Foxes" 1981-1982 and her subsequent Broadway appearance in "Private Lives" 1983. He then returned to the music industry, first at the famed New York recording studio The Power Station 1985-1990, and then at the Warner Bros. / Elektra Asylum / Atlantic Group music conglomerate in New York City 1990-1997.

He then moved to Los Angeles and worked for the Entertainment Industries Council, Inc. (EIC), who presented The Annual Prism Awards 2000-2010, While there, he served as Supervising Producer of the TV show, which aired yearly on The FX Network. He also co-produced an annual Capitol Hill Premiere of the awards prior to airing, which was hosted by a committee of over 75 members of the US Senate and House of Representatives. He additionally produced Public Service Announcements on various issues.

Moving back to the east coast in 2011 he returned to being a Travel Coordinator for touring rock groups, movie stars, athletes and political dignitaries.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Yeah I’m going to defer to Christine on this one. “This is the first single we ever had from the uh…White Fleetwood Mac album……you can take me to paradise..”

THIS!
If there ever was a mic drop statement. This is it.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

What show, concert, etc. was that?

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

What show, concert, etc. was that?

I think it's the Oh Diane video.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Villavic

What show,concert, etc. was that?

https://youtu.be/txA4jXCXun0?feature=shared

[Macfan4life]

Its from Top of the Pops
Is that not some British version of American Bandstand?

[DownOnRodeo]

If American Bandstand was a cringey mime-fest, then yes.

[DownOnRodeo]

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Its from Top of the Pops

Oh, that's why I had never seen that clip. Top of the Pops was never aired in Peru. Midnight Special was, SNL too, but no TOTP.

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong but they look kind of bored.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

If American Bandstand was a cringey mime-fest, then yes.

It was. I dont think anyone ever sang live on American Bandstand. Chris performed 2 songs in 1984 but she lip synced like everyone else. The band would play or someone would dance around with microphone while people dancing badly would be around them. That's the feel I got from Top of Pops. But you got great TV time for promotion.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

https://youtu.be/txA4jXCXun0?feature=shared

Good lord these shows are cringe fest material looking at them now. What did Lindsey say that one time about the steakhouse circuit..next stop Palookaville. This looks like what that kind of nightmare would be like

[David]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The first red flag for me was when he said the album was released In April. It was released on July 11, 1975. “Over My Head” was released in September and the band hired out to get a more radio friendly mix.

Yes, good point, also good point about none of us ever saw an actual U.S. 45. If you say it was a “single,” you need a 45 in the mid-seventies.

Second, in everything we’ve seen in Billboard, the industry rag, none of us has ever seen a mention of any single in 1975 other than “Over My Head.” No DJ who worked for AM pop radio in 1975 has ever reported that he tried to play Mac singles from the new album before “Over My Head.” We’ve just never heard this — and if it were true, it would be publicly true. The most I would buy is that the Reprise label wanted to release those other songs as singles and maybe tested them on a radio audience sample of some sort.

But this brings up another point. Was it common to release a single many weeks after the release of the album in 1975? That in and of itself is odd. The album was surely mastered and in the can by June 1975 if it was available July 11, so why didn’t they release a single at that time? We’re aware that the label had no high hopes for yet another Fleetwood Mac album and all that, but why not release a single promptly? I wish I could go back and read the opening sentences of Samuel Graham’s authorized bio of the band, but I no longer have the book.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by David

But this brings up another point. Was it common to release a single many weeks after the release of the album in 1975? That in and of itself is odd. The album was surely mastered and in the can by June 1975 if it was available July 11, so why didn’t they release a single at that time?

The first show of the 1975 tour was May 15, that leg ended on June 8, the album was released on July 11, the second leg started on July 25, and there was a break between September 1 through September 12. Since Mick was managing the band, maybe they had to work on the radio mix around their tour schedule.