"You Do or You Don't" - Page 2

tdfwiner · #16 10-05-2007, 08:26 PM

Hey David that's an awesome picture in your signature, you wouldn't happen to have a larger version would you? It'd make a great desktop. Isn't it from the '78 AMA's where Carol Anne Harris described Lindsey getting trashed out of his mind....and the sombrero

Chrislit18 · #17 10-05-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by suzyvermoesen

Also on OOTC , the end lines he sings on "Soul Drifter" always make me think of "The lion sleeps tonight". I 'm not sure exactly what he sings, but to me it sounds like "i am on my way" or "i am down the way" ?

I always thought that myself

At first I thought I was crazy thinking that.
Glad to see someone else does too!

**mylittledemon** · #18 10-06-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic

What song is this? I Know I'm Not Wrong?? Not that funny?? BOTH!!
I think Lindsey likes to do this.. Does Stevie too?

Yeah the "track a ghost thru the fog" thing...from "Angel" and "Sweet Girl"

gretchen · #19 10-06-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrislit18

I always thought that myself

At first I thought I was crazy thinking that.
Glad to see someone else does too!

I believe he's singing "I am bound away"

michelej1 · #20 10-06-2007, 02:30 PM

Stevie also says "dream on silly dreamer" in the Nightmare piano demo. And she says, "I'd like to leave you with something warm" in both Nightmare and Storms.

Lindsey uses "faces of glass" in Loving Cup too. Faces of glass work well in DOR on several levels, because they have their noses pressed up against the shop windows on Rodeo Drive.

I like the difference between falling down and getting up in Loving Cup and Family Man, because in Loving Cup it's like the couple is falling and getting up together, working out their problems, instead of giving up on each other. In Family Man, he's more solitary, which is ironic, given the song title.

And he also flies down Juniper more than once.

Michele

buckymcnix · #21 10-06-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by suzyvermoesen

Also on OOTC , the end lines he sings on "Soul Drifter" always make me think of "The lion sleeps tonight". I 'm not sure exactly what he sings, but to me it sounds like "i am on my way" or "i am down the way" ?

"i have found a way" is what i thought it was but i am not sure

michelej1 · #22 10-06-2007, 07:15 PM

When he was recording Soundstage, Lindsey used the same solo for Murrow that he does at the end of ISA and he commented, "I'm stealing from myself."

Michele

Chrislit18 · #23 10-06-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tdfwiner

. Part of I Want You's melody came from I Don't Want to Know. If I can think of any more I'll post them.

I listened to both songs back to back, and I still couldnt notice that.

plus if LB did use some of IDWK, couldn't SN have sued him???

Peestie · #24 10-07-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Lindsey uses "faces of glass" in Loving Cup too. Faces of glass work well in DOR on several levels, because they have their noses pressed up against the shop windows on Rodeo Drive.

He also uses "faces of glass" in 'On the Wrong Side'. "Faces of liars and faces of glass/Oh, they walk by the window/But they never got passed." So it's used in a similar way to DOR.

David · #25 10-07-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tdfwiner

Hey David that's an awesome picture in your signature, you wouldn't happen to have a larger version would you? It'd make a great desktop. Isn't it from the '78 AMA's where Carol Anne Harris described Lindsey getting trashed out of his mind....and the sombrero

Yeah it's from the AMAs. I think I just grabbed it off the Web, made the sig, & then trashed it. It wasn't very big to begin with, malheureusement.

David · #26 10-07-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrislit18

plus if LB did use some of IDWK, couldn't SN have sued him???

Seems unlikely that someone would sue someone over a I-IV-V chord progression, especially if that someone designed both tracks in question. Plus, I doubt Stevie has ever even heard I Want You. I myself don't hear the similarity between the two (other than the I-IV-V-IV on the chorus), but hey.

David · #27 10-07-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

When he was recording Soundstage, Lindsey used the same solo for Morrow that he does at the end of ISA and he commented, "I'm stealing from myself."

Not yours necessarily, michele, but some of these spot-the-similarities examples stretch. Virtually everyone who sings or plays does similar stuff from song to song. Christine used the same blues lick on Rhiannon onstage & on Save Me in the studio, & on dozens of other examples. That's just her style. It's not even necessarily a conscious thing. She didn't sit there thinking, "Now I'll throw in the Rhiannon blues lick." What you play, when you play it, & how you play it is what constitutes your style. It's different from consciously using an entire stanza in two or more songs, for example, in order to re-create a mood or emphasize an emotional core or some other deliberately aesthetic reason. And, as any study of Beethoven would show, there are a million different ways to slightly vary motives & larger themes, including inversion (or mirroring), augmentation, diminution, modality variation (major to minor or vice versa) & tempo variation. And lyrically, too, you can do dozens of things to reference previous work (some very astute people have called Stevie's entire body of work one big endlessly self-referential song).

Lindsey gives some of the same force & heft to the chorus of Book of Love that he put in Go Your Own Way by using essentially the same chord progression on the chorus of both, just employing augmentation techniques.

Every songwriter & every composer does this sort of thing. Even Thomas Dolby.

face of glass · #28 10-07-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Not yours necessarily, michele, but some of these spot-the-similarities examples stretch.

Ya. Once on another board someone was speaking about how Lindsey had done a cover of Wild Mountain Thyme, but titled it D.W. Suite. All they have in common is slight similarity in the vocal melodies and the "we'll all go together" line, that's it.

tdfwiner · #29 10-07-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrislit18

I listened to both songs back to back, and I still couldnt notice that.

plus if LB did use some of IDWK, couldn't SN have sued him???

Could just be my imagination, but listen to IDWK without the vocals and I think you may hear some similarities.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mihlm5

Tango · #30 10-07-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tdfwiner

Hey David that's an awesome picture in your signature, you wouldn't happen to have a larger version would you? It'd make a great desktop. Isn't it from the '78 AMA's where Carol Anne Harris described Lindsey getting trashed out of his mind....and the sombrero

Here's another one: