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In more straight-forward cases, producers often get songwriting credit for minor tweaks. For instance, Glen Ballard got co-writing credit for every single song on Alanis Morisette's Jagged Little Pill. Do you think he sat with her from the songs' inception through the creation of the chord structure and melody for every song? I doubt it. Most likely she brought him songs at different stages of completion and he grabbed some songwriting credit for himself. This scenario is quite common actually, so I'm a little surprised you're not familiar with it. Quote:
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PS: Catch Divas Live last night? My gal Cyndi brought the house down.
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I thought that it was said in quite a few interviews last year before the album came out that Lindsey was pretty much completely responsible for TD. I remember him saying that it was one of his faves because he got to do what he wanted with it and had free reign. He said there was something like three versions he had worked on.
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Many in the industry have balked at that arrangement, and have complained that it's an unfair practice (for both the artists and the struggling songwriters). And I've read that Celine Dion even once dropped a couple songs from one of her albums at the last minute, because a producer was making that demand.
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1. There was some sort of final argument over the album that we aren't privvy to that was apparently more unpleasant than any other argument they had. 2. Mick says that during that final argument over the album, there was something that happened that threatened to make their touring schedule far shorter than originally planned. 3. Lindsey specifically sites his concern that Stevie, not Mick or John, might pull out of the tour after 40 dates as a reason to not put out the double album. If one begins speculating upon those three things, it's not a big leap to consider what Gaius mentioned as a possibility. Obviously, we can't know for sure because we don't get to see the final argument and Lindsey's and Mick's comments seem sort of pointedly vague and ambiguous, and there is no comment from Stevie about the topic at all, which some may find a little odd. So it's just up for guesses and speculation, like so much else. I haven't watched it again recently, but I don't remember any mention that Warner Bros. was doing anything to keep the album's cost down. It seemed it was Lindsey who was offering to absorb costs to keep the album's price down, not them. I also don't really recall seeing Stevie ever say that she was happy with the double idea. But that may just be my memory.
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I think they are still touring to pay for the advance WB gave, pay for the recording of the record, and to make money for themselves. Clearly, SYW did not sell near what WB paid in expectance of and/or WB has lost money on it. I mean no one in their right minds spends at least a million and most likely over two million (LB recorded for well over five years ) to make a record that sells only 800,000 copies. Then, the alleged $750,000 (?) per concert guarantee for the principles. So, I think that was the 40 date deal. In other words, WB wants to make their money and can only do so via the touring and Stevie may have not wanted to tour for over 40 dates - but she has wound up doing so. But, I have no proof of that. It is just a feeling.
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From what I've been reading by those who work in the industry and post on these boards -- SYW exceeded WB's expectations. (I have no personal knowledge of this, just going by posts of those with some professional background in this.)
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you have no problem with stevie bringing in a piano demo, but if she brings in a near finished demo, Houston there is a problem. I think we can accept that ppl like some of her songs,maybe even none of her songs , and some ppl like some of his songs... it just seems that you( Carne) cant accept when ever someone states something about lindsey , its one thing to state your opinion, but its another to always try to justify the matter in a one way situation. These are two individuals that compliment one another whether you want to accept that or not. i myself think lindsey is a great producer of her work, but that doesnt make me think less of her solo work one bit. you can go on and on about how the guitar riffs influenced you to appreciate a stevie song, but its kind of TEEDious as you would say, lol..to always have to remark that thats the only reason you like a song.. All i know if i was a fan of FM and I had such a problem with listening to half the songs on an album by the other writer in a group,as do you do, i cant help but feel what a waste of time it must be for you to sit thru a 2.5 hour concert and only hear an hour or so of what you want to hear or to have to skip half the songs on a cd.... |
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