Christine: no more FM tours with SN or JM - Page 8

FM77 · #**106** 02-14-2021, 08:48 PM

When big acts tour again in 2022, Stevie will go tour alone and cash in. She isn’t going to have her last tour be with the Mac. Covid really was the end of FM.

John said he was done after they fired LB and this last tour was his farewell. They are all too old to wait for Stevie.

LB will go out and do his thing. They’ve all sold catalogs so that should tell you everything.

HomerMcvie · #**107** 02-14-2021, 09:59 PM

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When big acts tour again in 2022, Stevie will go tour alone and cash in. She isn’t going to have her last tour be with the Mac. Covid really was the end of FM.

John said he was done after they fired LB and this last tour was his farewell. They are all too old to wait for Stevie.

LB will go out and do his thing. They’ve all sold catalogs so that should tell you everything.

Unfortunately, it was time anyway. They're too old, and their voices are shot, to boot.

Goodbye to the band of my life. Touring, anyway. Too bad $tevie ruined it going into their last tour. The old $#%&@

UnwindedDreams · #**108** 02-15-2021, 06:24 AM

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When big acts tour again in 2022, Stevie will go tour alone and cash in.

So no live performances from Stevie or FM at the end of 2021, not even one off performances at new venue openings?

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John said he was done after they fired LB and this last tour was his farewell.

That's a profoundly beautiful statement. Thank you for sharing that.

aleuzzi · #**109** 02-15-2021, 08:17 AM

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Unfortunately, it was time anyway. They're too old, and their voices are shot, to boot.

Goodbye to the band of my life. Touring, anyway. Too bad $tevie ruined it going into their last tour. The old $#%&@

For me, it wasn’t the last tour that ruined it. It was Stevie’s refusal to contribute to a new FM album that was so infuriating. Technically, it was her right to hold back: no one can force her. But she knew they couldn’t let her go. She held them hostage to her celebrity. Realistically, what would contributing three or four songs have cost her? Seriously? She could have recorded them and then overdubbed her harmonies on the rest—that might have been like two weeks of work. Instead, she insisted on tours only. And then complained that the tours were brutal. Her spite towards Lindsey and his wishes trumped everything else.

HomerMcvie · #**110** 02-15-2021, 11:08 AM

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For me, it wasn’t the last tour that ruined it. It was Stevie’s refusal to contribute to a new FM album that was so infuriating. Technically, it was her right to hold back: no one can force her. But she knew they couldn’t let her go. She held them hostage to her celebrity. Realistically, what would contributing three or four songs have cost her? Seriously? She could have recorded them and then overdubbed her harmonies on the rest—that might have been like two weeks of work. Instead, she insisted on tours only. And then complained that the tours were brutal. Her spite towards Lindsey and his wishes trumped everything else.

I've said it a million times -

Stevie Nicks is the worst thing that ever happened to FM.

BombaySapphire3 · #**111** 02-15-2021, 12:48 PM

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For me, it wasn’t the last tour that ruined it.

that was at least 50% of it for me along with Nick's refusal to contribute to a new album and the all around treachery ..hey now hey now don't dream ....it's over

David · #**112** 02-15-2021, 01:55 PM

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For me, it wasn’t the last tour that ruined it. It was Stevie’s refusal to contribute to a new FM album that was so infuriating. Technically, it was her right to hold back: no one can force her. But she knew they couldn’t let her go. She held them hostage to her celebrity. Realistically, what would contributing three or four songs have cost her?

Was she worried about writing something for the album? I can think of a bunch of her old songs that the rest of the band might have been able to do something interesting with: Chanel Chanel, Castaway, All the King's Horses, Grandfather Song, It's Not a Dream. Stevie wouldn't have had to write a single new word.

elle · #**113** 02-15-2021, 02:00 PM

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John said he was done after they fired LB and this last tour was his farewell. .

would have been a nice sentiment if he held onto it before the fake tour. now he looks like a putz.

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They are all too old to wait for Stevie..

they were too old to wait for her any time after 1998, now all their unnecessary waiting and giving her the benefit of the doubt is getting back to them - and to us, having no real FM albums since they've gotten back together - just one ruined what would have been amazing Lindsey solo album.

then again - better late than never!

SteveMacD · #**114** 02-15-2021, 02:25 PM

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For me, it wasn’t the last tour that ruined it. It was Stevie’s refusal to contribute to a new FM album that was so infuriating. Technically, it was her right to hold back: no one can force her. But she knew they couldn’t let her go. She held them hostage to her celebrity. Realistically, what would contributing three or four songs have cost her? Seriously? She could have recorded them and then overdubbed her harmonies on the rest—that might have been like two weeks of work. Instead, she insisted on tours only. And then complained that the tours were brutal. Her spite towards Lindsey and his wishes trumped everything else.

This.

Perhaps the biggest reason I was fine with the last tour was because any illusion that Fleetwood Mac was still an actual band anymore were shattered by the LBCM album. Stevie blowing off the guys is one thing, but also blowing off Christine after she’d been gone for 16 years and, more importantly, blowing off a once in a lifetime chance to make one more album with the classic lineup said all that needed to be said.

The others, including Lindsey, all went along with it. Regardless of his reasoning, Lindsey also fed the monster that was Stevie’s ego.

And, we all know why.

So, if Fleetwood Mac isn’t a real band anymore, who cares who’s in the band? At least they didn’t embarrass themselves with the guys they brought in. Just seeing the core three and hearing Christine play a few keyboard solos, as well as finally hearing some obscure non-Rumours songs was worth it to me. Plus, Lindsey did a lot of deep cuts on his tour (“I Must Go” was a always wish list song for me).It was all good.

sue · #**115** 02-15-2021, 03:13 PM

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Was she worried about writing something for the album? I can think of a bunch of her old songs that the rest of the band might have been able to do something interesting with: Chanel Chanel, Castaway, All the King's Horses, Grandfather Song, It's Not a Dream. Stevie wouldn't have had to write a single new word.

I’ve thought this for a long time, way back when there was talk of making a new Album, after Christine rejoined.
All she had to do was work on 3 old tracks..she didn’t have to write anything.
I don’t think she can write a decent song, now....which is fair enough, she is in her seventies.
And no matter what is said about Stevie these days, (all of which she deserves)..She did write some wonderful romantic songs..

lbfan · #**116** 02-15-2021, 03:34 PM

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I’ve thought this for a long time, way back when there was talk of making a new Album, after Christine rejoined.
All she had to do was work on 3 old tracks..she didn’t have to write anything.
I don’t think she can write a decent song, now....which is fair enough, she is in her seventies.
And no matter what is said about Stevie these days, (all of which she deserves)..She did write some wonderful romantic songs..

It may be heresy amongst the Stevie fans (and possibly offensive to Stevie herself), but I always thought Gold and Braid could have been a great FM song (would have loved to hear what Lindsey would do with it - he took Twisted to another level). Could have been the lead single off a final FM album. Perhaps Stevie views that as strictly solo material, although she has only performed it live (I think there was an early demo of the song on a deluxe version of one of her albums). A nice rocker none the less.

jmn3 · #**117** 02-15-2021, 03:41 PM

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It may be heresy amongst the Stevie fans (and possibly offensive to Stevie herself), but I always thought Gold and Braid could have been a great FM song (would have loved to hear what Lindsey would do with it - he took Twisted to another level). Could have been the lead single off a final FM album. Perhaps Stevie views that as strictly solo material, although she has only performed it live (I think there was an early demo of the song on a deluxe version of one of her albums). A nice rocker none the less.

I would imagine by the time of Christine's return, there's no way she would give Gold and Braid to Fleetwood Mac. That being said, it wouldn't have been hard for her to find 3-4 songs to give to the band for one last album. She's just a miserable old a-hole and that's all there is.

BombaySapphire3 · #**118** 02-15-2021, 07:01 PM

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I would imagine by the time of Christine's return, there's no way she would give Gold and Braid to Fleetwood Mac. That being said, it wouldn't have been hard for her to find 3-4 songs to give to the band for one last album. She's just a miserable old a-hole and that's all there is.

She is a dried up husk of her former self. The "mad songwriter" who had way too much material for just Fleetwood Mac.