Has Stevie's decision to not record new FM album affected the way you feel about her?

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I am a fan of her work in general, IYD and 24K included. I don't think I would have gotten into the band without her (although once I became familiar with them as a whole, I fell hard for the others) Over the years, however, I believe her worst personality traits have become the dominant ones, rather than mellowed.

well put.

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I am a fan of her work in general, IYD and 24K included. I don't think I would have gotten into the band without her (although once I became familiar with them as a whole, I fell hard for the others) Over the years, however, I believe her worst personality traits have become the dominant ones, rather than mellowed.

Michele

so spot on.

[mylittledemon]

I'm feeling 50/50, siding equally with both of the winning choices in the poll.

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I'm feeling 50/50, siding equally with both of the winning choices in the poll.

If you add up what all the choices are positive or negative, more people are pissed. 46-35

[JohnL]

People have absolutely no right to be pissed. To me, this is like a job choice for one of us regular folk. Do I stay with a big company who has paid my bills for the last 30 years but been so very difficult to work with/for because of all the politics or do I venture out and start my own business that I know there is a market for but may reduce my stress levels, give me more freedom, and I really don't need the extra money from the big corporation? It is a no brainer. Do what makes you happy and gives you your life back.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by JohnL

People have absolutely no right to be pissed. To me, this is like a job choice for one of us regular folk. Do I stay with a big company who has paid my bills for the last 30 years but been so very difficult to work with/for because of all the politics or do I venture out and start my own business that I know there is a market for but may reduce my stress levels, give me more freedom, and I really don't need the extra money from the big corporation? It is a no brainer. Do what makes you happy and gives you your life back.

Mind you, she'd most likely have never escaped "being a waitress". She was lucky enough that Lindsey included her in the "package deal".
She'd have neither fame nor fortune, if it weren't for FM.

Yeah, you're right...she owes them nothing.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Mind you, she'd most likely have never escaped "being a waitress". She was lucky enough that Lindsey included her in the "package deal".
She'd have neither fame nor fortune, if it weren't for FM.

Yeah, you're right...she owes them nothing.

None of them would escape poverty but perhaps Christine, Chicken Shack went pretty good. Lindsey, John and Mick while undoubtedly talented would have been totally uninteresting alone (and would have succumbed to their demons).

[elle]

Originally Posted by JohnL

People have absolutely no right to be pissed. To me, this is like a job choice for one of us regular folk. Do I stay with a big company who has paid my bills for the last 30 years but been so very difficult to work with/for because of all the politics or do I venture out and start my own business that I know there is a market for but may reduce my stress levels, give me more freedom, and I really don't need the extra money from the big corporation? It is a no brainer. Do what makes you happy and gives you your life back.

What you are saying makes complete sense.

To further go w your analogy - the problem is that she is keeping her job in the big corporation where she's slacking off stalling the production for the corporation while she's working on her smaller company projects. If corporations catch up to such behavior, you'd be fired, no?

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Mind you, she'd most likely have never escaped "being a waitress". She was lucky enough that Lindsey included her in the "package deal".
She'd have neither fame nor fortune, if it weren't for FM.

Yeah, you're right...she owes them nothing.

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

None of them would escape poverty but perhaps Christine, Chicken Shack went pretty good. Lindsey, John and Mick while undoubtedly talented would have been totally uninteresting alone (and would have succumbed to their demons).

While I agree Stevie totally owes her fame to FM, I don't exactly think she would have spent her life destitute, and neither would Lindsey. They both came from wealthy families. If they had never joined FM or broken through on their own, they most likely would have dusted themselves off, moved home, and gotten involved in their family businesses somehow. At the very least, their parents would have helped them complete their educations, and each would have reinvented themselves that way.

Christine has far and away always seemed like the most practical, grounded member of the bunch. Even if she had never found fame, she would have made a comfortable life for herself, in whatever form that might have taken.

Now John and Mick? They'd be the wildcards for sure. Real life would have been especially hard on Mick. He just doesn't seem like the type who would ever have been able to hold down a "real" job or support a family. And with John, you'd have to wonder how his alcoholism and temperament would have paved his life path.

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

While I agree Stevie totally owes her fame to FM, I don't exactly think she would have spent her life destitute, and neither would Lindsey. They both came from wealthy families. If they had never joined FM or broken through on their own, they most likely would have dusted themselves off, moved home, and gotten involved in their family businesses somehow. At the very least, their parents would have helped them complete their educations, and each would have reinvented themselves that way.

Christine has far and away always seemed like the most practical, grounded member of the bunch. Even if she had never found fame, she would have made a comfortable life for herself, in whatever form that might have taken.

Now John and Mick? They'd be the wildcards for sure. Real life would have been especially hard on Mick. He just doesn't seem like the type who would ever have been able to hold down a "real" job or support a family. And with John, you'd have to wonder how his alcoholism and temperament would have paved his life path.

Of course they wouldn't become beggars but there are many kinds of poverty. For example I know many people of my age that have a stable job that gives them 400€ per month and have a toddler and are barely getting by; even more jump from city to city chasing a poorly paid 4-months job after another.
In Stevie and Lindsey's case I'm not sure about what would become of them.
I really see Stevie as a stubborn woman and there's a point after which parents don't/can't help anymore, so it's not unlikely that in the end she couldn't have really given up on singing and become a struggling singer like her grand-father AJ Nicks.
About Lindsey I really see him as someone who isn't very adaptable or versatile and it could have been that he didn't know what to do beside music. He wouldn't certainly become homeless but I see him struggling from job to job never finding the right one.

[Macfanforever]

Its time to move on.Stevie and the Mac does not owe me anything.My only gripes with her and them is to try something different then what they normally do and lack of music.Other bands and artists put out multiple albums a year like hotcake pies on Christmas day.And they have 3 to 4 number one hits on one album.Too much studio time was wasted with them because of perfection and I want it this way BS.Other bands just record in one or 2 takes and dont give a crap how it sounds and if there is errors in the recordings. So I give them a F to a D minus on lack of output compared to their peers in the biz.

[FuzzyPlum]

Were it not for Fleetwood Mac the most talented in the band would still have carved out decent careers for themselves. Christine and Lindsey would have had a good role in the music industry somewhere, most likely in other good bands. John would have done well as a respected bass-man, whether in another top band or as a great session player. He was already established as being amongst the best blues bassist around before he joined FM. He'd have done alright.

Mick and Stevie- I'm not so sure. By his own admission Mick was never the most talented of drummers. He does what he does and he does it solidly but he isn't one of the greats. Stevie is a star and as such I'd like to think she'd have risen to prominence anyway.... but how many really good singer/songwriters are there out there that barely get anywhere? For solo singer/songwriters that aren't really musically accomplished it can be down to a big slice of luck whether they 'make it'. For every successful singer there are X numbers of supermarket cashiers.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Were it not for Fleetwood Mac the most talented in the band would still have carved out decent careers for themselves. Christine and Lindsey would have had a good role in the music industry somewhere, most likely in other good bands. John would have done well as a respected bass-man, whether in another top band or as a great session player. He was already established as being amongst the best blues bassist around before he joined FM. He'd have done alright.

Mick and Stevie- I'm not so sure. By his own admission Mick was never the most talented of drummers. He does what he does and he does it solidly but he isn't one of the greats. Stevie is a star and as such I'd like to think she'd have risen to prominence anyway.... but how many really good singer/songwriters are there out there that barely get anywhere? For solo singer/songwriters that aren't really musically accomplished it can be down to a big slice of luck whether they 'make it'. For every successful singer there are X numbers of supermarket cashiers.

I agree completely. Mick and Stevie are the two that would've been least likely to make it. I find it odd that they're the two drama queens as well...

[BombaySapphire3]

Stevie and Lindsey's parents were upper middle class..maybe upper upper middle class but not really wealthy. In comparison a contemporary of theirs country rock inventor Gram Parson's parents really were multi-millionaires.They would both have had to work at some point .Stevie a pretty girl, most likely would have married someone of comparable income to her dad .Lindsey would have done fine without FM eventually I'd guess as would have Chris and John as others have pointed out. Leaving Mick as Fleetwood Mac's most likely pauper which even with Fleetwood Mac he has been at times

[SeanJT]

I still feel like Stevie is bluffing.

Everyone and their dog said Christine would never come back, and here she is.

It just doesn't make any sense otherwise.