The Bible Codes - Page 5

dissention · #61 12-06-2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, that is hios father, what is he supposed to say. AND - that quote in that article is somewhat out of context because in another article containing the same quote, Gibson goes on to say his father never denied the Holocaust happened - he just took issue with some of the details.

In the end, you will never admit that your original statement that "denied" the Holocaust was incorrect, which it CLEARLY IS

- so what is the point

EDIT: I think Ginson is a nut case - all of the films I can think of that he produced (not acted in but produced) are overly violent IMO. Also, I think Gibson does not really like anyone who is not a Catholic, which is his right (who am I to tell him who is friends are

) - Finally, I think Gibson has been tainted by his father - which I think is your point

You know the point and I don't give a flying f*ck what "Gibson goes on to say." He can say his father was taken out of context all he wants, that doesn't make it true.

Gibson is a homophobe and an anti-semite who cleverly words his statements so that he doesn't have to admit the intent of the Holocaust. His father is an anti-semite who has been spewing filth for years, not just recently, and who Gibson says never told him a lie. Consider the sources, they're both pigs.

dissention · #62 12-06-2004, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, I am not saying Gibson is not anti-S - he probably is. I am just saying he is not denying the Holocaust - he admits it

No, he does not. By failing to admit intent, he fails to admit the Holocaust happened. It couldn't be any clearer. He selectively says that "some Jews" were put in concentration camps and passively says "atrocities happened." Gimme a break, he's nutjob and a Holocaust denier.

strandinthewind · #63 12-06-2004, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

No, he does not. By failing to admit intent, he fails to admit the Holocaust happened. It couldn't be any clearer. He selectively says that "some Jews" were put in concentration camps and passively says "atrocities happened." Gimme a break, he's nutjob and a Holocaust denier.

Again, he used the term "Holocaust" "survivor" - please explain that - I'm waiting

I agree with you Gibson is a bad guy. But, he has never denied the Holocaust. You are just wrong here - go ahead and admit it - its okay I promise

I thinkl you want him to say Hitler put them in camps and killed them. Well, has anyone ever asked him that exact question. I have not read it. Have you?

strandinthewind · #64 12-06-2004, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

No, he does not. By failing to admit intent, he fails to admit the Holocaust happened. It couldn't be any clearer. He selectively says that "some Jews" were put in concentration camps and passively says "atrocities happened." Gimme a break, he's nutjob and a Holocaust denier.

Spin it on down

dissention · #65 12-06-2004, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, he used the term "Holocaust" "survivor" - please explain that - I'm waiting

I agree with you Gibson is a bad guy. But, he has never denied the Holocaust. You are just wrong here - go ahead and admit it - its okay I promise

I thinkl you want him to say Hitler put them in camps and killed them. Well, has anyone ever asked him that exact question. I have not read it. Have you?

Believe what you want, dear, but you're wrong.

strandinthewind · #66 12-06-2004, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

You know the point and I don't give a flying f*ck what "Gibson goes on to say." He can say his father was taken out of context all he wants, that doesn't make it true.

Gibson is a homophobe and an anti-semite who cleverly words his statements so that he doesn't have to admit the intent of the Holocaust. His father is an anti-semite who has been spewing filth for years, not just recently, and who Gibson says never told him a lie. Consider the sources, they're both pigs.

While perhaps true - it does not mean they "denied" the Holocaust. Again, the use of deny means they said it never happened - at least according to the def. in M. Webster. But, the spinners use deny in their own way to make the already bad Gibsons sound worse. AND - I think calling someone a Holocaust survivor is acknowleging that the Holocaust happened. But, apparently you and others IMO foolishly do not

strandinthewind · #67 12-06-2004, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Believe what you want, dear, but you're wrong.

Was that an explanation of "Again, he used the term "Holocaust" "survivor" - please explain that - I'm waiting" - because if it was . . .

Dissention is wrong
Dissention is wrong
Dissention is wrong

AND Strandie caught him in it !!!!!!

celestenadia · #68 12-06-2004, 08:36 PM

Cool musings...
MY personal favorite "learning channel" is Nickelodeon.
I've gotten some great history tips by watching reruns of The Flintstones.
I think it's neat how primitive man lived in peaceful coexistence with the dinosaurs

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But seriously, my mother FORBADE us to watch The Flintstones when we were little. Biological falacies aside, she couldn't STAND the improper English.

celestenadia

dissention · #69 12-06-2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

While perhaps true - it does not mean they "denied" the Holocaust. Again, the use of deny means they said it never happened - at least according to the def. in M. Webster. But, the spinners use deny in their own way to make the already bad Gibsons sound worse. AND - I think calling someone a Holocaust survivor is acknowleging that the Holocaust happened. But, apparently you and others IMO foolishly do not

According to your beloved Webster, to deny is:

to declare untrue.

What did Senior Gibson say?

"It's all -- maybe not all fiction -- but most of it is."

That sounds like denial to me, unless I just don't have a grasp of the English language.

Most of it is fiction. Right from the horse's mouth. He's denying the facts of the Holocaust.

dissention · #70 12-06-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Was that an explanation of "Again, he used the term "Holocaust" "survivor" - please explain that - I'm waiting" - because if it was . . .

Dissention is wrong
Dissention is wrong
Dissention is wrong

AND Strandie caught him in it !!!!!!

You've failed to grasp my entire point about intent, which he refuses to admit. That is denial.

strandinthewind · #71 12-06-2004, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

According to your beloved Webster, to deny is:

to declare untrue.

What did Senior Gibson say?

"It's all -- maybe not all fiction -- but most of it is."

That sounds like denial to me, unless I just don't have a grasp of the English language.

Most of it is fiction. Right from the horse's mouth. He's denying the facts of the Holocaust.

I have repeatedly said I am talking about Mel!

Nice try though

AND - maybe his father thinks some of it is fiction, so what - that is not denying it ever happened

Again, nice try, but . . . .

strandinthewind · #72 12-06-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

You've failed to grasp my entire point about intent, which he refuses to admit. That is denial.

No, I did not. I said Mel is a cad and probably anti-S. But, intent or not and anti-S. or not, that is not what you originally posted and have maintained, which was Mel Gibson denied the Holocaust, which they clearly he did not, unless of course you do not think, as Mel does, that what happened in the camps were autrocities.

dissention · #73 12-06-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I have repeatedly said I am talking about Mel!

Nice try though

AND - maybe his father thinks some of it is fiction, so what - that is not denying it ever happened

Again, nice try, but . . . .

You said "they."

I won't say Mel is in as much denial as his daddy, but they both are.