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but especially reading that "Stevie's people" quote, it got me thinking maybe there's something contractual that's stopping them from even considering releasing the album they almost have in the can as a FM if SN is not on there; that it's not all emotions, love and cash grabs. last week's episode of Vinyl had a plot line about Elvis doing Vegas shows and basically not getting to make any career decisions on his own, being a bit like Colonel Parker's puppet. got me thinking about "Stevie's people" and how does decision making go in her camp. and Lindsey's recent lyrics about not getting through to the person behind her current facade ("It may be you don't remember me but I remember you"). and somebody here analyzing SN and saying how she doesn't live in reality. convoluted i know... and probably doesn't make much sense.
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There's the mythology and romanticized version of being in a band that performers like to perpetuate (and Stevie in particular) but it's a *business* a nitty-gritty, down and dirty dog-eat-dog *business* once you get big and famous. It's not the same thing as a bunch of people who like each other getting together anymore. A lot of FM fans though don't want to see beyond that facade-- and the band (most of them) don't *want* us to see that side. But it's there in force in this band. Lindsey is the only one who really alludes to it with his refs to "band politics" and such. But even he walks a thin line because if Stevie's feathers get too ruffled it makes everyone's life hell. I will go don my suit of armor now for the onslaught.
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The politics has indeed been there since 1982 ish. And you better believe the words were said, "well if I don't get my way, I'm leaving!!" and that sentence was said over and over again. I often thought when Christine left it was in part because of the politics. You can only handle so much immature behavior. And Christine don't play.
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it's quoted somewhere in these threads. something about Mick needing agreement from Stevie's people, John, Christine, and Lindsey, in order to get a tour or album together back in the 80s. a ledgie used it?
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You're right. I would say she's my favorite performer in the band, but I never understood the blinders people have regarding her ways. There are fans who think if she recorded herself passing gas it should go platinum.
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For the record, I have been here for about 15 years(I lurked before my join date), and I have saved nearly every crazy pic and meme that has ever been posted here.
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Let's hope we get some album news!!
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Of course every artist hopes for their work to be received well and become commercially viable. But we're talking about a world-wide, esteemed fifty-something year-old band. I believe they are well aware of their place in today's market. They shouldn't expect the chart-busting sales from days past. However, given this significant circumstance (where this will likely the last new music from such a historic band), it's reasonable to assume the album will succeed in major markets throughout the worl. I hope the music on their farewell album is approached with less emphasis on trying to be being current/commercial, and more about being seamless/timeless. They really have nothing to lose now.
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I think most members are aware of their place in today's market, I think the real grey area is how some members (ok probably one member in mind...) choose to accept that reality & how they choose to let their ego be affected by it.
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I think if they did a new album and toured it, it would do really well. It's all in the marketing.
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Stevie lost a lot of leverage with Christine's return. The band can easily function without her. They'd rather not, because that five-piece is a rock legend, but Stevie and her people would be wise to humble themselves a little.
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This arguement always seems to come up and I'm not sure why because as a five-piece band they are fantastic and we should just be grateful that they are still here and in fine shape.
BUT. The fact is, if Stevie Nicks left the band there is no way that the band would sell as many concert tickets or albums. And that is not opinion, that is fact. Now let's not bring this up again because it's pointless! |
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I hear you. John should just stick to playing bass and stop stressing over useless sales info!
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