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Old 11-04-2004, 04:37 PM
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Now that's just wrong. How about you hope Bush doesn an AMAZING job in his second term and he has a catharthis and is greatful that he actually won this election. I realize that's not very like;ly but why can't we HOPE for that, instead of HOPIJNG for things to get worse so people realize their mistake. Why not HOPE Bush does a great job.
Speaking for myself - I had that hope when he took office. I sincerely thought he meant what he said. After four years of realizing the horrible mistake I made in trusting him and his cronies, I am loathe to trust him again.

I mean I believed him when he said he would never go to war unless America was in direct and immediate danger of attack, but I know know that he knew damn well that Iraq was no such thing and was hell bent on going there anyway and now 1,000's of U.S. soldiers are dead.

I believed him when he said gay people have the right to coexist - then he comes out with the Const. ban of not only gay marriage but any form of civil unions because gay people are "sinners."

I believed him when he said the tax cuts would work and he would curtail Federal spending (they must go habd in hand). Now he has outspent on borrowed money any Democrat ever in the history of Democrats.

and the list goes on and on with things like healthcare, the environment, etc.

So, I, and I imagine others, are once bitten twice shy.

But, you are correct - I wish he would do the right thing and forget about his agenda of theocratic conservatism and realize his former policies have failed
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....how can you advocate the mess W created by not adequately arming our troops
If i'm not mistaken, did John Kerry and others vote NAY on arming the troops? $87 billion...no?
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:41 PM
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If i'm not mistaken, did John Kerry and others vote NAY on arming the troops? $87 billion...no?
You are mistaken (but I love ya anyway!!! ) That bill was an omnibus spending bill that encompassed many other things and W lied about what the money was going for. Essentially W wanted a blank check for Halliburton. Sadly, he got it.

Here is a website that explains it:

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=269

What I am talking about was W knew prior to the invasion that the armed forces did not have enough supplies. He could have waited until they got them. But, he chose not to. Thus, my argument.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:42 PM
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I have always said Barney is the best thing about W

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html
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I have always said Barney is the best thing about W

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

BTW, HAPPY B-DAY to a wonderful first lady, Laura Bush (C'mon, lets at least give the first lady some love)

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Old 11-04-2004, 04:46 PM
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ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

BTW, HAPPY B-DAY to a wonderful first lady, Laura Bush (C'mon, lets at least give the first lady some love)

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I like Laura and wish her HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!

Now - knock some sense into that hubby of your's
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Gay rights is where I get more liberal. I think privacy is very important. What happens at home stays at home. So, I have little problems with gay rights. I even think civil unions should be alllowed, and recognized by the state. Now, i do disagree with marriage. I feel religion is almost like joining a country club. Theres rules to join and rules to follow in both. If the church defines marriage as between a man and a woman, then theres really nothing you can really do. But I disagree with the states defining marriage. That should be seperation of church and state. Now I know there are MANY gay ledgies, and i respect them 100% as people and my friends, and I hope I did not offend anyone. Like I said, this is my own personal opinion and I hope I do not lose any Ledgie support.
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I'm not sure I understand. It seems as though you've said it's okay with you for there to be gay marriage as long as churches are not required by law to acknowledge those marriages. Is that what you were saying?

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Old 11-04-2004, 04:59 PM
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Now - knock some sense into that hubby of your's
those chances are the same as Stevie Nicks leading a chiffon cladded brigade of tambourine terrorists into Tokyo for some Saki

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I'm not sure I understand. It seems as though you've said it's okay with you for there to be gay marriage as long as churches are not required by law to acknowledge those marriages. Is that what you were saying?

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No, Im getting at a difference between those recognized by the state and those by the church. Make sense now?

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those chances are the same as Stevie Nicks leading a chiffon cladded brigade of tambourine terrorists into Tokyo for some Saki

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If i'm not mistaken, did John Kerry and others vote NAY on arming the troops? $87 billion...no?
Once again, your facts are wrong. Go look at the bill Kerry supported, then the one the Republicans pushed through and expected him to support. They were radically different. Maybe your frustration should be vented on Bush, who sent them in wearing Vietnam-era flak jackets and then cut their pay once they were over there.
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:03 PM
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ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

BTW, HAPPY B-DAY to a wonderful first lady, Laura Bush (C'mon, lets at least give the first lady some love)

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Yeah, hopefully she won't run me over in her car if I do.
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No, Im getting at a difference between those recognized by the state and those by the church. Make sense now?

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I thought that was what I asked?

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