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Strandy, with your impeccable logic, your command of rhetoric, & your crack research abilities, I would say that you have won this debate. But now it's Miller time.
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Of course, I defer to Miller time any time |
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Just some food for thought. |
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As for TITN being a success without her - that is not really a comparison or conclusion you can correctly draw IMO. She was on the record, albeit in a sub par fashion save for 7W IMO. She has routinely said that LB and the band worked on her songs on the prior records when she was not around, mostly because she does not play an intrument like they do. She also was a far larger "star" (which equated to commercial success which is what you are talking about) than LB or CM (though both IMO have more musical talent) at the time and even now. In the end, FM sells best when it is the five and IMO, the use of the individual talent (via competition perhaps) escalates when the five are together, which results in a better musical product and, somewhat separately, commercial success. Interestingly, I often wonder what La Nicks was thinking around the TITN sessions. History demostrates that she was not as present for the other records as LB, CM or the rest of the band. Maybe she thought they don't want me there anyway. Who knows. I personally think she would have liked to have been there for all of it but could not because of obligations and the rehab, which she clearly needed. Is that her "fault?" I suppose the answer is yes. But, what was she supposed to do, not put out RAL on the hope that FM (read LB IMO) would get back together and release a record three years later. To me, that is an unreasonable expectation to place on her. I mean LB apparently was going full steam ahead on his solo record, but morphed it into TITN. Are we to fault him for proceeding with a second solo venture since Mirage? True, he morphed it into a FM record, but the reasons he did that IMO are business reasons. Conversely, Wild Heart sold around two or so million records and produced three hit singles ("Stand Back" (Billboard #5), "If Anyone Falls" (#14), and "Nightbird" (#33). So, though I think she would have liked to go back and record with FM, she had no reason to use FM in IMO the way LB did, albeit to brilliant results and success. Last edited by strandinthewind; 05-18-2008 at 12:18 PM.. |
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Of course, Lindsey needed FM so much that he waited three years after his solo album to work with them again and then decided not even to tour on the group album, although touring is where he would have made most of the money. But thinking about him not touring, that refutes the argument that if Christine recorded she would have to tour (which I suppose needs no refuting, because they all know it's a stupid argument). Michele |
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I would imagine that the other members of Fleetwood were a little peeved when they found out about that. Strandford, I want you to figure out a way to explain how jetting off to the southern hemisphere was an example of Stevie's "loyalty" to Fleetwood Mac at the time. But hang on -- let me grab a chair & get comfortable.
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Then again, I kind of no longer give a shiitte. If you want to think La Nicks had no loyalty to FM, so be it. I am entitled to my opinion and it has been expressed enough. So, unless something new is said, everyone please see this thread and the other threads on this topic. |
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But not in 1986.
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But like I've said before, that was her Escape Trip. |
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why would she pass up touring with bob dylan and tom petty? It was a crazy time for all of them, so i dont think she was wrong for doing that. There's not much else to do in the studio for her, and that's what she does best-performing live! just my rambling drunkin thoughts..
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oh my how that kills me
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Iain Shedden: music writer, drummer dies at 60
When he interviewed Fleetwood Mac’s Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham in the early 2000s, things got testy. “The two of them were sitting together on a sofa in a Sydney hotel,” Shedden told The Lismore Echo in 2011. “I knew they had a fiery relationship: the album Rumours was about their breakup. They seemed fine and were chatting away, when Lindsey said something about which month it was when he left the band. Stevie said ‘No, that’s not right’ and it set them off. For 10 minutes, the two of them were hoeing into each other while I waited for it to subside. Eventually she said ‘Sorry, we’d forgotten about you’.” http://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts...f7fa3cdd204907 |
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