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In a culture where Sylvia Plath can write a poem called "Daddy" about everyfather, everylover, everyman, Christine's gorgeous song is an amazing contribution to the archetypal "daddy" which is not, in this song, a literal father but a father figure: the girl seeking a father through her lover. Is it complex? Yes. Is it abnormal? No. This is one of Christine's most poignant, poetic songs. Saying it is about incestral rape is reducing the lyrics to a most brutal literalism. As the great writer Barry Lopez once said: "one's inability to read metaphor signals the death of the soul."
If I sound highfalutin' here, it's because this song moves me in ways so few songs do. |
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For those who take what I say too literally instead of snickering at the metaphor: I adore this song... it's one of her deepest lyrical Mac contributions in my book. And one of her most beautiful songs to boot. |
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On topic: I know the song is for/about Mick, with that knowledge (and since English is not my native tongue) I do not have any problems with the song or the lyrics... Simply love it! |
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HOW do you know the song is about Mick??????
Because HE declared that, YEARS and YEARS AFTER it was recorded? Mick's a self admitted drama queen, and none of the Rumours songs were about him, so he claimed OD as his. Only he wasn't the writer, to be able to make that claim! |
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Even when there's not a vast difference in age or authority between the partners, they sometimes refer to each other as "mommy" or "daddy." It often happens when they have children and when the toddler is learning to talk, to help them with words you might say, "give Daddy the spoon." Next thing you know, it's 20 years later and you're still calling your hubby, "Daddy!" Ronald Reagan used to call Nancy, "mommy." I don't think there's anything unusual it at all. It's common, but I also think it's creepy. Michele |
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I'd heard Stevie refer to Lindsey as her "old man" back in the 1970's in some article or another. I would never refer to my man that way but I would not have a problem with the word "daddy."
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Never Dance with the Devil He Will Burn You Down |
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I have always loved this song. I was thrilled when they played it live for the Dance. Second favorite Christine song with Fleetwood Mac -after, of course, Over My Head.
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I am absolutely certain there is no incestuous meaning in the song, and I'm mostly certain that it has nothing to do with Mick Fleetwood. Does anyone have the quote where Mick claimed it was about him?
Christine's musical origins were in the blues, and the term "daddy" is routinely used by women blues singers to their lovers. Bessie Smith, a great blues singer of the '20s, had a song called "Oh Daddy." You can look it up. I believe that Christine uses the term "daddy" in this song in the way the old time blues singers did, and the same way a male singer might say "mama" to mean a lover. There's nothing creepy about it whatsoever. In fact, the term gives the song an old-time, authentic, adult emotional feel.
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-Joanne (from Cape Cod) |
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And don't forget, she loves her "Sugar Daddy," too.
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Daniel |
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Although I think I may also have seen it elsewhere, I definitely remember it from the Making of Rumours DVD.
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Of course, the endearment is all right for Christine, who led a life which far removes her from such stereotypes, but I don't like the connotations. Of course, "daddy" is great in certain contexts. I very much enjoy beat me daddy eight to the bar. Still, even there, I hear a plea for corporal punishment that could be viewed as pervy. Michele |
04-18-2010, 12:31 AM |
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Ditto.
(Can I hear a what what for the Andrews Sisters? ) |
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Jeepers, what is this? Pick on Christine's lyrics week?
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