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![]() That's just it- they started alienating themselves from their inner circle once they hit it big with Rumours. It was the addiction to fame, substances, and lust that fueled it for sure. Once they started eschewing the people who were their support team before their stratospheric fame hit- the people who knew them when they were nobodies & who weren't yes men zombies- their music suffered hugely. Tusk was their masterpiece because they were on the brink of being completely nuts, but hadn't fallen off the precipice just yet. That ended up happening during the Tusk tour, and it was all downhill from there.
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Extended play was absolutely awful, but that doesn't mean they need Richard or ken. They just Need to try a little effin harder. There was absolutely nothing wrong with SYW. If they turn in SYW level quality songs plus Christine ill be very satisfied. I don't want to hear about how un cohesive the album was. As individuals songs the album was a winner, especially if each writer trimmed their 3 worst songs. And id even go as far as to say it actually feels very cohesive in parts. Murrow feels right at home next to Illume. Peacekeeper come and smile at you all flow perfectly into each other. And any faults actually left with SYW will be fixed this time around with the fact that Christine is back and they are all going into record at the same time.
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![]() Do you really think they would work with other producers than they did on EP and the rest of the 5 LB songs? That is most reasonable the input from LB, they are working on CM's and SN's material right now, I think. Or they are rerecording Lindsey's songs too? No. If they want to do it in a short amount of time, they have to fit it in the batch that is recorded in 2012.
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I still think if they find the proper producer, their music can be taken to another level, though. For instance, it seems Richard & Ken brought out a warmth of sound from the band that hasn't been present since their departure. As a comparison, Lindsey's production tends to be much sharper, and Froom's was just plain flat, in my opinion.
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![]() I see Lindsey doing the demos, then them bringing someone else (Mitchell Froom, Matt Serletec, Rick Rubin) in to fine tune it ~
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Judy Wong’s position was eliminated when Stevie’s new manager, Irving Azoff, shut down Seedy Management in 1980, long before their popularity declined. John Courage became Christine’s manager in 1984 and was with her until “The Dance” when she decided to retire. Richard Dashut stayed with Lindsey for “Out Of The Cradle” and came back into the Fleetwood Mac fold for “Time.” He even got a thanks on “Say You Will.” Ken Caillat was hired by Christine to produce “In The Meantime.” I don’t see it as them being shown the door so much as the band’s output dwindled to almost nothing, and out of sight, out of mind. Given the choice and opportunity, they’ve mostly stuck with their crew. More than anything, Stevie’s changing voice (going from more throaty to more nasal), putting on more weight, and going on Klonopin, mixed with Lindsey Buckingham quitting the band, all around the same time, did more to hurt them than anything. I think “Rock A Little,” “Red Rocks,” the “Tango...” tour video, her contributions to “Tango,” and TOSOTM did more to hurt Fleetwood Mac than losing their support staff. Said same staff, minus Courage, were NOT a part of “The Dance,” which was a huge hit for Fleetwood Mac, and there were some misses for the band (individually and as a whole) prior to that. Quote:
ETA: However, if Ken and Richard want to record, and the band is happy with that, then go for those two. If not, then Froom would be my go to. It's hard to blame somebody when they weren't working in the same studio the band did during "Tusk."
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![]() Two paths they could go - get a producer from the past or some current hot producer. Personally I'd go with the past.
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![]() doesn't sound like Dave Stewart will have anything to do with producing FM album:
Dave Stewart @DaveStewart 23m start recording Hollie Stephenson Music again in Jamaica April 4th http://fb.me/3lqEezLIB
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![]() Dave Stewart would bring the polished sound and warmth that many in Fleetwood Mac's audience -- both diehard and casual -- enjoy and appreciate in their work. He also has an ear for the "quirky," when it suits the music or artist.
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![]() Mitchell Froom - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Froom Jon Brion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Brion and then also Dave Stewart - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Stewart not sure whether we heard any other possible producers being mentioned? the 2 from FM's past: Ken Caillat - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Caillat Richard Dashut - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dashut
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![]() I adore what Dave brought out of Stevie for In Your Dreams. It's arguably the best album she's made since Bella Donna. However, the possibility of Dave & Fleetwood Mac makes me extremely nervous. The warm sound he'd bring out of the band would no doubt be fantastic. I just fear he'd be a bit heavy handed & overly polish the music. I don't know- if the band isn't going to use Ken & Richard or Lindsey as their producer, they should probably scout fresh talent.
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To my ears, there really isn't anything on 'In Your Dreams' that wouldn't sit beautifully on a Mac album. Dave did a great job of capturing the best aspects of Stevie's past work, while also bringing something current to the mix. So the album sounds "classic" yet avoids sounding like a re-tread. I can see why he wouldn't appeal to anyone who's looking for a 'Tusk' redux, but I'm willing to bet that he'd be the most likely producer to highlight all of the band's best elements -- and not just one stylistic approach over another. |
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