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I think Ralph Nader is pretty cool. However, one has to admit that he can't have things both ways. Either be the consumer advocate Superman with a clean record, or own up to the fact that you've invested in (and therefore potentially propagated) the same companies that you abhor. Kerry's got my vote because I know he will beat Dubya. He's not perfect, but neither am I. I trust Kerry to be at minimum a good caretaker President (I've never considered that term pejorative). I know the things I truly care about (social tolerance, the environment, education) will vastly improve from Dubya's failures under his administration. The other stuff can be ironed out over time.... |
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We're not talking about me here, so I don't have to explain anything. ![]() Quote:
And yes, I'd be thrilled if he shared that money with others... starting with the people who have been wronged by those companies he's making his money from. Quote:
I was merely pointing out that, while you demonize Kerry for any hypocrisy, perceived or real, you still tout Nader as some bastion of all that should be respected. Quote:
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Even I, an unabashed critic of capitalism, would have to be remiss not to acknowledge that mutual funds, stock options and 401ks have benefitted me. Let's get real here. Quote:
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The issue is that Nader VERY publicly decries these companies and their actions, and THEN turns around and makes money from them. The last I looked, neither you nor anyone else here on this board, had gone on national TV to criticize any of these companies. Nader has made a career out of doing that, and then made a fortune off of those very same companies.
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![]() I get what you're saying, but at the same time, I get what Johnny is saying. We all may make money off of the big corporations via our 401k's and mutual funds, but none of us have made a career out of fighting the corporations and lashing out at them as being "evil." In the end, he's paid for his consumer advocate work that is principally founded on his disdain for those corporations, then he turns around and makes even more of a profit off of those corporations by buying their stock. He's denouncing the SUVs, but putting gas in them at the same time.
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Mr. Nader is most certainly not exempt... even though you'd sure like to make it sound like he is. Quote:
![]() If you say you don't have confidence in him, fine. That's understandable. But to say he would be "as bad as" someone else, is an assumption.
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So I'm not making a cent off of any "evil corporation." ![]() (By the way, in what tax-bracket is 3.8 MILLION dollars considered a "nest egg"?) ![]()
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