DISCUSSION: Lindsey's songs from Mirage - Page 2

Silver Springs · #16 10-17-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

What.you.said.

Me too, exactly. And Oh Diane is easily the worst song on the album.

Oh Diane isn't that bad. It's a bit of fun, if cheap. Kind of in the same ball park as Lindsey's Bwana and That's How We Do It In L.A. Wierd for the sake of wierd, if you want to simplify it lol.

vivfox · #17 10-17-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

I love all of these songs so much! Except Oh Diane

. Can't Go Back is easily my favorite. But Book of Love is great to me too.

Finally you said the right thing that will keep you from the chopping block.

vivfox · #18 10-17-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Oh Diane - I don't quite get the levels of hatred this song sometimes receives. It's not wonderful, but, it's fun and catchy.

I hate, Hate, HAte, HATe, HATE this song sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo effing much. It makes me want to kill somebody.

And to top it off, WB released it as a single in 1982 and then I was forced to listen to it on the radio. AND THEN I had to explain to people WHY I was a fan of FM!

TrueFaith77 · #19 10-17-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

You know, all of these songs are nice to bop to, but I can't say there's one in that bunch that I really love or that I find to be more than "pleasant." Probably Can't Go Back is the one I like the most, due to the Melodies awaken sorrows from their sleep lyric.

Michele

Yes! But he works out that concept more fully on Law & Order than on his Mirage tracks.

CreepingDeath · #20 10-17-2010, 02:10 PM

I'm not too keen on any of Lindsey's songs on Mirage. Eyes of the World, Book of Love, and Can't Go Back are nice enough, but that's all.

Oh Diane and Empire State makes me want to hurt small children and puppies.

michelej1 · #21 10-17-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad

I love all of Lindsey's songs on Mirage. The whole album is great. I don't get why so many people dislike it. I know it's a lot different than Lindsey's work on Tusk. I'm sure he wanted his songs to be more 'out in left field'. I don't think he was given a lot of choice.

Mirage may be my favorite FM album. Hard to say, but it could be. I was a new fan when it came out and I guess that made me cherish it more. I was also a student then and had more time to listen to music, so I played this thing to death.

I love Lindsey's work on it too -- I just don't think that work is best exemplified on his own songs. Michele

Stew_Matthews · #22 10-17-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Mirage I love Lindsey's work on it too -- I just don't think that work is best exemplified on his own songs. Michele

I tend to agree with this. I remember my brother’s girlfriend bringing ‘round a copy of Bella Donna and friends said FM were much better and I went out and bought Mirage. Since then I was ‘hooked’ on this album and Lindsey in particular. His individual tracks aren’t his best and I have this notion that maybe he spent months working on Christine’s and Stevie’s tracks and his own were then something of a rush at the end. The arrangement of Hold Me, the production of Love in Store (that elevated it above what Christine wrote/demo’d), the guitar playing on Straight Back just seem to represent more effort than he put into his own songs. Having said that ‘Can’t go back’ is wonderful in my opinion.

PenguinHead · #23 10-17-2010, 10:18 PM

I was always perplexed by the retro style/approach he took on his Mirage songs. I tend to agree with what another Ledgie said -- that it was Lindsey's response to the backlash he got in the aftermath of Tusk.

That said, his songs have grown on me. Eyes of the World was the immediate standout. Empire State was also interesting.

I've come to appreciate the simplicity of Oh Diane. But I'm still surprised that it was selected to be released as his single...and that it actually sold/charted respectively in certain markets/countries! It's such a light-weight sliver of a song.

Though I didn't intially like the clankity-clank production of "Can't Go Back," it has become one of my favorites. Wish they would have performed it live. It was actually a single in Europe -- I have a picture sleeve single of it.

aleuzzi · #24 10-17-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

Yes! But he works out that concept more fully on Law & Order than on his Mirage tracks.

I totally agree with this. Law and Order works wonderfully. All of the "toy" songs on there really make sense. Bwana is a favorite but there are many others. Somehow on Mirage the experiment just doesn't work for me. There's a weird lack of energy.

What's even more annoying is that two really good tunes--Goodbye Angel and Teen Beat--were left off Mirage.

jellyman10 · #25 10-18-2010, 04:26 AM

If I stick to what I think of the studio cuts of LB's Mirage songs, then the one that I dislike the least is 'Can't Go Back'.

If I take the songs in a more general sense of what comes to mind when I just think of them generally, then the live 'Eyes of the World' actually transcends into being enjoyable!

Loz

MissLadyLoki · #26 10-18-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

I totally agree with this. Law and Order works wonderfully. All of the "toy" songs on there really make sense. Bwana is a favorite but there are many others. Somehow on Mirage the experiment just doesn't work for me. There's a weird lack of energy.

What's even more annoying is that two really good tunes--Goodbye Angel and Teen Beat--were left off Mirage.

I was convinced that Teen Beat was a Christine B-side from Tango in the Night. Turns out I was wrong.

Goodbye Angel is Say You Will, right? If so, I'm shocked at how far back it went, almost as much as when I found out that Planets of the Universe wasn't just from before Trouble in Shangri-La, it was almost a Rumours song.

TrueFaith77 · #27 10-18-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki

Goodbye Angel is Say You Will, right?

No.

Goodbye Angel was released on The Chain: 25 Years.

You might be thinking of Goodbye Baby or Say Goodbye.

kokoro · #28 10-18-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

What's even more annoying is that two really good tunes--Goodbye Angel and Teen Beat--were left off Mirage.

I really like these songs. I'd certainly rather hear Lindsey making weird sounds in Teen Beat than hear Book of Love, Empire State, and Oh Diane. Replace those songs and Lindsey's contributions to Mirage would have been fairly strong offerings. As it is, I only like Can't Go Back and Eyes of the World.

You've got to wonder what they were thinking when they made these decisions about what songs would go on the album. Along with Goodbye Angel and Teen Beat, they also left off Smile at You and If You Were My Love, which are certainly stronger than Straight Back. Alas, missed opportunities.