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I would never condone the death penalty, no matter what the crime. It's barbaric, draconian and archaic. The only true punishment is to be left in prison to truly live with what they have done, of course for the time frame that the crime calls for. The death penalty relies on the idea that the person would be facing God or Hell when they died. That's no punishment. If there is a God, then they'll do so in due time. We shouldn't have the right to play God and decide for ourselves that somebody needs to die. Even if they did take a life. We're just lowering ourselves to their standards, for which they were punished.
I lol at the idea of Wikipedia being deemed a fitting source of information. |
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Anyhoo, no one said Davis should walk, just that he shouldn't be put to death if seven of the nine witnesses recanted, all seven saying their stories had been coerced by investigators. |
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Well then pick your source and find any news that a Senator from Alabama has been murdered by a black man on work release. That's pretty specific info that should be easy to find right?
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While I understand the need for justice - and I support our justice system entirely, it seems pretty clear that this case was mishandled. Witnesses were coerced and the investigation used tactics that are at best underhanded, and at worst downright criminal.
Ultimately it is still possible that Troy Davis is (was?) guilty, but for me that's not the issue I am bothered by; it's more upsetting to me that a man was essentially murdered at the hands of our government for a crime that he possibly did not commit. I suppose the ultimate hypocrisy here is that it's always the most "christian" populations (American South) that seem the most eager and willing to enforce the death penalty, in spite of the teachings of the man/son of God they claim to hold in highest regard. I am not a Christian or even a religious person, but even I have the foresight to sometimes ask myself "What would Jesus do?" If only his supposed followers would more often do the same... Inevitably I will have offended someone with my comments on this matter, but I can live with that.
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How dare you. That's the lowest post I've ever
seen on the Ledge. I didn't post his name because I like my privacy here. But since my Uncle's last name is different from mine here you go. The Honorable Roland Cooper, former State Senator for Alabama and Judge. |
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^ Proof if you need it, lol. Thus why I don't trust Wikipedia. This came up in a couple of moments. |
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I certainly don't want to bash Officer McPhail's family. His mother has said that this execution needed to continue because she needed closure. What if it turns out Davis isn't the shooter? Is there still closure? Last edited by gldstwmn; 09-22-2011 at 10:52 PM.. |
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Because I was working, and thus not ferreting through the internet. Ya know, doing other things besides The Ledge
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That the death penalty even exists in this country in 2011 is an embarrasment .While watching the Republican candidates 'Tea Party" debate and hearing the audience cheer when Rick Perry proudly mentioned the number of people he had put to death in TexasI became nauseous.This same group also cheered and applauded at the prospect of a 30 year old dying because he did not have health insurance for 6 months.
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And though I'm ashamed to be part of the same breed of mammal as she is, I'd still defend her as much as all the rest if she were on death row, since murder is wrong whether it's an individual or a government committing it. |
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Anywho, while we are on the topic of the death penalty, anyone here seen The Life Of David Gale? Probably my favorite movie ever. You should def check it out.
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Some posts have mentioned the support from the Christian right for the death penalty, but what truly stuns me is the support from prominent Dems. Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Gore--all of our most recent serious presidential candidates have been pro-death penalty. Boggles the mind that none of these people have a problem with such a policy. BombaySaphires is right--the death penalty is an embarrassment.
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I don't believe any of those you mentioned truly support the death penalty. In the same way that I do not believe Obama is truly opposed to gay marriage, or Bush Jr. was anti-gay marriage, or John McCain either. Americans are beyond fickle when it comes to politics, and candidates have to say certain things to woo voters, even if those things are not necessarily what they want to say. Hard-line conservatives and far-left liberals alone cannot elect anyone - they require that huge pool of swing voters in the middle that swing back and forth between parties, choosing the candidate that they feel will best preserve their day-to-day comfort zone. Had Bush said he supported marriage equality, he could not have been elected. Had Obama said he was opposed to the death penalty, he could not have been elected. This is just my opinion. Deep down inside, behind closed doors, I think most politicians are just normal people who have a work persona they have to put on every day to get the job done. Please take note that I said 'most', because there are definitely some crazies out there.
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The man that was acquitted in murdering my Uncle Roland was set free to do as he pleased. And with his freedom he decided to move to another state and rape a woman. He also commited other crimes. This time he was sentenced to years in jail. I do believe in capital punishment. It's an unfortunate necessity. I actually believe life in prison without a chance for parol is a worse sentence than death. |
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