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I agree. But it was posted here, and your ability to search the threads is as easy as mine. Maybe you have the energy, I don't.
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OK Stevie, did you “just” come off of a long tour 3 months ago and now need 2 months in Hawaii? Time for some rest
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I guess the reason I'm not putting stock in the pay breakdown is because it's incredibly easy for any user on this board to make up something like that and quite difficult to come by real numbers. The number of people who knew the payroll statistics for *each* member of the band has to be pretty small. And so, when that info pops up on TL, we're stuck trying to determine the legitimacy of a game of telephone. Anyway, sorry for any confusion, if there was any! |
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Well I could certainly believe that pay breakdown, couldn't you?
I'm sure she has the most powerful management among them. Frey and Henley said they were never restarting The Eagles unless they got a higher cut than everybody else...
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I don’t know how popular she is in the US cos I don’t live there. But I do know at The Musicares awards who got the loudest cheer, scream holler etc, etc. And it was Ms Nicks....so to most folks, she is the most popular...(you don’t have to like her to work that out) She is a draw...she is a crowd puller... So maybe your % figures are correct. She gets paid by results.... So she bends the truth...so what. |
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As a writer Stevie gets more royalties from album sales, etc. When the Mac hit it big in 1976 I guess the 5 members split touring equally. After Lindsey left in 1987 and Rick and Billy joined, I seriously doubt they were paid the same as Stevie. I bet she negotiated a bigger chunk. When Christine left, I bet she negotiated again.
I hate to think she makes more from touring than Mick because its his band. But I would probably believe its a tradition that has existed since 1987.
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Once you're allowed in the pool to negotiate what you are worth based on what you bring to the table in terms of ticket/album sales, then it is market-driven, not genitalia-driven. If Mick wants more money, he needs a better manager who will fight for it against all the other managers fighting to divvy up the pie. Discrimination would be if they said "sorry Mick, you're a man so you can only make X amount no matter what." As it stands, the market has spoken and she drives more sales than he does. Capitalism, baby. (ETA: otherwise, Lindsey should also feel bad for making more than Mick, and I doubt he does, or that anyone would expect him to.) You might think he should get more coz his name is on the band, and he and his manager should fight for money on that basis. But money talks, and the number of tickets Stevie can sell far outstrips what he can sell. Capitalism. I don't think Stevie feels the need to rub Mick's nose in her success anyway; Lindsey, on the other hand.... yeah, I think she loves that she outsells him.
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Stevie 35% Lindsey 35% Mick 15% John 15% Before Christine's return, I thought Stevie and Lindsey were paid the same. Whatever the case, the singer/songwriter headliners SHOULD get paid more because they are filling the seats. Let's face it, without the lead singers, John and Mick would either be the opening act for REO SPEEDWAGON or playing 500-seat clubs. It's been done before-just reference the Bekka Bramlett/Billy Burnett lineup of Fleetwood Mac. |
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Now, if you look at Lindsey on stage for the entire concert (even needlessly during Mick's interminable drum solo) and always having to do at least one thing (play guitar) or sometimes two (play and sing) while Stevie can leave the stage and never does more than one thing (sing), then Lindsey is putting in more time, "doing more work," and would be deserving of a higher salary from this point of view. But honestly, the breakdown that David posted (which I'm still not sure is corroborated fact) never bothered me much. The men of FM have extremely limited earning potential away from the band, whereas Stevie can still bring in a tidy sum. For Mick to make a third as much as Stevie is a pretty big win for him. They all benefit financially from Fleetwood Mac, but the guys get bigger "raises" than she does when they all come together. |
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They made a pact. Sure they did. We'll scream - and then we'll walk out... You tell 'em Stevie. That raging monster needn't be worried about being sexually harassed now. #tooold4me2care |
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Plus don't feel bad because I bet 15% with her is more than he'd take home if he split 50-50 with he and John without her. I'm sure that's the only reason those figures fly with any of the other members.
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I think what Stevie meant was that everyone in the band, regardless of gender, receives equal pay for equal work, not that everyone in the band is paid the same regardless of their individual roles. That is what the Times Up movement is about -- not that men and women are just paid equally, but that they are paid equally for equal work.
Therefore, Lindsey may make more money for producing albums, Stevie, Lindsey and Christine may make more money for writing songs, etc. Weren't Stevie and Christine tied for third position on the 2015 Forbes list for Highest Paid Female Singers due to Fleetwood Mac's tour that year? I don't know where those numbers come from, but it would imply that no one received more money just for showing up on tour.
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