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Maybe all of this is karma. Lindsey’s is the embarrassment of getting fired from the band. Stevie’s is the current ire by die-hard Lindsey fans. Last edited by StevieandChris; 04-29-2018 at 08:58 PM.. |
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Sorry, did something wrong on that last post.
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Yes, in Stevie's fans words, revenge. After 43 years. Wow! Clearly no matter what Lindsey says you're not gonna believe him because "he deserves this".
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"I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective. What that did was to harm the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny." Lindsey Buckingham, May 11, 2018. Last edited by button-lip; 04-29-2018 at 09:20 PM.. |
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And like it or not it happened here too. Last edited by StevieandChris; 04-29-2018 at 09:07 PM.. |
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Lets not forget that Stevie is the reason the band didnt make another FM record. NO ONE can dispute that! So much for being a working, creative band again. Lets just tour, have fun, and make lots of money. At least Chris and Lindsey wanted something more. So hats off to them for giving us the treat that was BuckVie! And I still say Stevie got gut punched with that! She herself said she thought they would not do it. I'm just so tired of her mental lapses and bs! Where is the puking emoji when you need it?!
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I don't understand what it is with people tossing around Lindsey's history with violence as if it's some sort of bargaining chip in respect to what's going on with the band right now. The way Lindsey behaved back then should never be condoned and if someone wants to inherently have a dislike of him because of that then I think they have all the right to.
But if someone now (and this is almost specifically always Stevie fans), in their desire to argue that he somehow deserved to be treated like this from the band and that what the other members did wasn't wrong, unnecessarily and out of nowhere brings up the "he was an abusive boyfriend!" claim, not only does that disrespect the seriousness of domestic violence and the fact that it should be talked about in full seriousness on its own, but it also shows that the person doesn't really have much of an argument and thus feel the need to bring up the worst aspect of Lindsey's character that likely has absolutely zero to do with what has gone on here. I don't know why this is so hard for some people. After all the years of brilliant musicianship and hard work (much more so than any other member of the band if you ask me), Lindsey didn't deserve this. I am shocked, disappointed and angry with the other band members for treating him like this. I love Stevie to death, but it's not hard for me to think that what she (as well the others) did was wrong. |
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But because Stevie and Mick told the story with sad eyes, you of course believed them. Because they never lied. Why don't you wait to hear Lindsey's side of the story before judging this was fair? Yeah, ok, this is clearly pointless.
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"I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective. What that did was to harm the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny." Lindsey Buckingham, May 11, 2018. |
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It is complex. For me the alleged abuse does matter because it’s part of the control issues he has. Lindsey has also had control issues with the band since 1975. So many people only say Stevie is the control freak, but remember how Mick and John resented him trying to take over (my words) after they joined. So even if you take the alleged abuse out of the equation, eventually there is going to be a breaking point when you have someone like Lindsey. As brilliant as he is, he was fired. Just like brilliant but difficult people are fired in every industry. I don’t think it’s revenge. It’s consequences of past actions. We are publicly being told it was the scheduling issue. We’ll see. |
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I am curious to hear Lindsey’s perspective on what happened. I hope he does make a statement. |
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And if you're saying that it's a consequences of his actions in regards to being a control freak, well Lindsey certainly isn't the only member of the band who did things back then that caused trouble for other band members. Mick was an absolute mess, a complete failure as a band leader. Look at what Lindsey has to say about making the Tango album, he said Mick would literally pass out drunk/stoned in his home to the point that Lindsey got a trailer for him parked in his driveway to basically live in. Stevie was such a rock diva that several people have said they could hardly speak to her because she was constantly surrounded by an entourage, during the making of Tango she decided to fly out to Australia instead of recording with her band. And she also had a serious drug problem that likely made dealing with her difficult, Jimmy Iovine allegedly quit Rock a Little the first time for that very reason. They all gave each other hell but Lindsey is the only one who's facing "consequences" for it, decades later? When oddly enough Lindsey was fine enough to make an album with Christine just a year ago, with Mick and John playing on it, tour that album which by all accounts, was a successful and happy experience for everyone involved on it. And you're right that the "he wanted to delay the tour one year and we didn't" is what they're telling the press. And it's not the whole truth, it's an altered version of events. My point here is that I believe Lindsey did not do anything to warrant being treated like this. I personally believe Stevie did not to tour with him anymore because of their bickering and that her outlook on life has changed since TP's death and when he started asking for whatever he was asking for in the regards to the tour, she decided "I'm done" and Mick went with it because Stevie is his cash cow, and the rest of them all went along with it as well, whether they liked it or not. I love Stevie and I love the band but I think what they've done here is just wrong. |
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Then why didn't Stevie get the boot when she was obstructionist to any touring or recording for several years? She sure should have
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And about the domestic violence. That is a rather pathetic try to give the band some morale reason for their backstabbing firing. Remember when John threw an axe after Christine? Domestic violence has NEVER been a problem for the band, as long as the money rolled in. And also not for the fans who cry "girlfriend-beater" now. They bought the music, heaped to see FM with said violent man in concert again and again. In that narrative, they were complicit. But that hasn't dawned on them. |
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I don't know--in the "real world" I work with difficult people who I don't necessarily like and see eye to eye with on a daily basis. That's why is called "work" and it's not camp. The fact he may have been tossed for something like this is beyond ludacris and just shows that this band is still living on some other planet.
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