Tusk Survivor - FINAL ROUND - Page 14

Serrart · #**196** 09-19-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I guess that's where I went wrong, because that's what I tried my best to do throughout the entire thing.
I vote in favor of the songs that move me most, or against the songs that do nothing for me.

Lindsey deserve an extreme amount of credit for his contributions to 'Tusk,' though I do think it's unfair to say that those who favor the contributions of Stevie and Christine are "playing it safe," or only prefer softer, more commercial songs

I totally agree, and I can't really say that Lindsey is the master of Tusk, because there was more than one creative head at work. I think Tusk is a very uncompromising album, that explores different directions from a song to another. The listener can choose to follow one of the paths or enjoy the enthralling disharmony that comes from their blending.

Romy

Johnny Stew · #**197** 09-19-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up

That means you think there are songs on Tusk that are "just for the sake of being experimental" ? Then I am sorry, Johnny, but I don't see that. I think There's a LOT of melody and GREAT again GREAT vocallayers in even the shortest, pointy songs that stand out for a VERY long time. I still love those songs after all these years. And good lord how many times did I play this record?

PS; isn't it a very great compliment on the subtle-ness and quality of a song if it takes a long time to grow on you?

Gaius and I have had this discussion before, and there are times when I think experimentalism (is that a word?!) benefits the song, and brings it to even higher levels of greatness.
And then there are times when I think hitting a box of tissues is done just to do something "different," and doesn't aid the song itself in any way.

Nearly all of Lindsey's 'Tusk' material belongs in the former category to me, but not 100% of it.

And yes, I do agree that it's a great compliment on a song when it contains enough elements to ingrain itself into your psyche, until such time as you realize you've come to absolutely love it.

Because 'Tusk' was an "expensive" double-album, and I didn't have a ton of money... and also because my Uncle was a Lindsey fan (who lost all interest in him by 1984, I'm sad to say... though I'm trying to re-ignite his interest, with things like "Murrow")... I actually had a vinyl copy of 'Law & Order' and a cassette of 'Go Insane' before I had 'Tusk.'
So I was already very familiar with Lindsey's offbeat solo songs, and loved them... but his 'Tusk' songs were just a little too raw and unfinished to my ears when I finally heard them.

Thankfully, my opinion changed favorably over the years... but I can still see, based on my initial reactions, why some people feel he has other offbeat/experimental music that's more appealing overall.

(By the way, if you haven't already, re-read my post that you were commenting on. I re-edited it a little bit after I posted it, to clarify the reason behind my statements.

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Johnny Stew · #**198** 09-19-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

I couldn't help but give you a bad time about it. I like it when you get saucy.

Thanks! My friends usually tell me it's a side of me that they really get a kick out of.

The Tower · #**199** 09-19-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

I couldn't help but give you a bad time about it. I like it when you get saucy.

"Don't get saucy with ME, Bernaise..."

Johnny Stew · #**200** 09-19-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

"Don't get saucy with ME, Bernaise..."

I LOVE that movie!!!

sparky · #**201** 09-19-2004, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

"Don't get saucy with ME, Bernaise..."

I ought to know this quote.

chiffon head · #**202** 09-19-2004, 05:24 PM

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Johnny Stew · #**203** 09-19-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

I ought to know this quote.

'History Of The World, Part 1.'

Johnny Stew · #**204** 09-19-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiffon head

Final Round ~ Storms

It kind of got lost in the last six or seven pages of conversation, but the final round is over and "Storms" took the top spot.

strandinthewind · #**205** 09-19-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by face of glass

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Jason, you'll get your due and more tomorrow (not that anyone cares about it by then). I'm tired now, honey.

Now Now - sour grapes are never pretty - even if they are Finnish

(I am joking BTW

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strandinthewind · #**206** 09-19-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

Didn't you already feel dirty aftet that little statement about Gaius ?

No - he took a shower between the two

Brian

strandinthewind · #**207** 09-19-2004, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

"Don't get saucy with ME, Bernaise..."

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Count de Monet: My Lord, you look just like the piss-boy!
King Louis XVI: And you look like a bucket of ****!

Insolent Flunky: Count yer money.
Count de Monet: Count de Monet!

Bearnaise: I don't like your cuffs!... I don't like your cuffs! I don't like your cuffs! A man's cuffs should be even with the tip of his 'pee-pee'. Yours are all the way down to your balls!
Count de Monet: At least I have them!
Bearnaise: Bitch!

OTHER PERIODS

Let's face it; You can't Torquemada anything!

Send in the Nuns

Marcus Vindictus: What bait must I use to catch your love? I am your servant.
Empress Nympho: Ah, but the servant waits, while the master baits.
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Sorry - back the reg. scheduled programming - Stevie Won

strandinthewind · #**208** 09-19-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

I ought to know this quote.

You are BANISHED forthwith for five minutes from any place where you would hold your head with pride and in high regard

Sorry - HotW - 1 is my fav.

diamondsnake · #**209** 09-19-2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost

Well I was responding to Christopher who was giving reasons to why he didn't like Tusk (which is why I personally think he didn't understand what Lindsey was doing on that album), so I'm not sure why you are replying.

I do like Tusk! I just think a handfull of Lindsey's songs are annoying and I can't say that about Stevie (that's why I voted for Storms and not IKINW). I love WATL, the Ledge, Tusk and IKINW. The others I could pass on. I don't think this makes me any less of a fan.

dissention · #**210** 09-19-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Well, I still disagree that any of these songs is ever as "bad" as people make them out to be. Maybe not as great as a "Rhiannon" or "Silver Springs," but not "crap," as is often stated.
I listen to a heap load of other artists, and, trust me, even something like "Two Kinds Of Love" will never be anywhere near as bad as some of Bonnie Tyler's Germany-only releases, or some of the sickeningly sweet latter-day pop by formerly incredible singers and/or songwriters (Elton John, Rod Stewart, Phil Collins, etc.)... for just two examples.

Even Stevie's so-called "crap" is better than a lot of what's out there, IMO.

And that's the thing. Stevie is NOT Bonnie Tyler, she's NOT Elton John, Rod Stewart, or Phil Collins; she's better than all of them. That's why when she releases garbage like Imperial Hotel, Two Kinds of Love, and Jane, I'm shocked at how terrible it can truly be.

You simply can't compare an artist like Stevie to artists like Bonnie Tyler or Rod Stewart because you can't compare Sable On Blonde or Trouble In Shangri-La to Total Eclipse or Do Ya Think I'm Sexy. I mean, C'MON.