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i was at work. work ruins everything.
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For what it's worth, I do believe one can be a supportive friend and still be able to SAY, "you know you seem to be awfully unhappy about your weight and I notice you sure do eat a lot..." or some variation of that. I don't think that we should tippy toe around people. But to comment on Anne Wilson's unflattering wardrobe choice felt catty and mean spirited to me, hence my responses. |
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JannieC are you slapping me in the face again? Catty, mean spirited..........ouch. If you really knew me, I know you wouldn't think that way about me. And I do stand by my statements, though if you could read my mind they aren't as mean as maybe they read. My apology to Buttercookie (and to Zombie?) was because I care what they think. Not to mention you Jannie. The clothes statement might have seemed harsh, and maybe I should have used better words. But there is truth to what I said. All that said, it wouldn't hurt if I lost 10 to 15 lbs. Oh well, back to guitar playing. Maybe Heart needs a lead guitarist for the new tour? Watch my back Carrie. |
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you're right, in many ways fat people are a free for all. i was thinking specifically and speaking generally. i don't know heat magazine, but i assume it's a gossip mag? in that case, there really isn't much that's off limits for those rags, tho i know what you mean. however, many people do treat it as an untouchable topic -- just see the comments in this thread -- and i don't think that's helpful for anybody. on the topic of obesity, the atlantic had an interesting article on it a couple months ago: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...-obesity/8017/ i don't agree with everything he has to say, but it's still an interesting look at the issue from someone who has firsthand experience with it. |
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I'm having a Corona right now!!!...and I so want that delish burrito...
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Yo, Ohio. Good post. I'm not going to quote the whole thing because you know why you rock.
My issue isn't with friends telling friends that if they're going to complain, they need to start acting, though. My issue is with this... Quote:
I really f*cking hate the "I'm concerned for her health" front. No, random person on the street complaining about fat people, you're not mad because this girl you don't know is setting herself up for heart disease and type II diabetes. I don't hear you complaining about that pretty little anorexic cocktail waitress who served you drinks last night. Unless, of course, her bones were showing. Then it's just gross. Then she needs help. The truth is, eating problems are fine as long as the woman courting them is, too. So no, you're not mad that fat people are hurting their health, you're mad because you have to look at fat people, and damn, when they don't wear clothes that hide the fat, you have to see it EVEN MORE! So own up to it when you're called out, don't hide behind a facade that you're just a concerned citizen. Or, if you're going to hide behind that facade, please don't torture me by going on about the importance of real talk and honesty about people with weight problems. I live in a city of hipsters. There's only so much irony I can take in one day.
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I never was there Was there when it counts I get my way You're so like me Last edited by LikeAWillow; 06-29-2010 at 05:42 PM.. |
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And LikeAWillow I can feel both, she should take care of herself for appearance sake and health. Actually everytime I see Ms. Wilson I feel some of both. I bet if she took care of herself she'd be happier. Though all those Behind The Music shows have artist complaining (as to what I meant in my original post). This topic has really brought out some strong feelings from many of you. And I wish I'd been a little more careful how I worded my original post. But even if it seemed harsh, it was true from my point of view. At some points in her career, I could have said the same about Stevie. Though the older someone gets, I think they should get a little more slack. Walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me. I know there are many reasons for weight gain. But anyone being honest would have to admit some are just too lazy to do something about it. I have friends that fit in both catagories. Some can't seem to lose weight no matter what they do. And others have no will or are just too lazy to do anything about it. More cake anyone? |
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You have got to just be goading us for fun now. Come on, dude. That's too easy ^
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I did notice most of the posts were from "skinny" people. |
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Oh, come on, its not like iamnotafraid has ever goaded us for fun before.
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Yes, sometimes both.
I did eat six tacos yesterday. Some say I was born with a heart two sizes too small. |
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The term "non judgmental" can hold different meanings for everyone. The expectation for clinicians from the NASW Code of Ethics: Social workers also should be aware of the impact on ethical decision making of their clients’ and their own personal values and cultural and religious beliefs and practices. They should be aware of any conflicts between personal and professional values and deal with them responsibly. So, MY responsibility is to make sure that my biases, values, and judgments don't impact the client's treatment. Is imnotafraid or anyone else on The Ledge bound by this? Of course not. I am not saying that imnotafraid is catty, but I thought that mentioning AW's outfit was mean spirited and I commented on that. I need to stop commenting about this though, because I am sounding like I am speaking from waaay up on a high horse, and I don't want that. I do much better when I am *speaking*, rather than writing. |
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