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I've thought about that at times also. Was Lindsey abusive to Stevie and that's why he was let go? But why even keep it secret? He has always been known as volatile. If it was verbal abuse, again, there is no reason to keep that secret. You go on TV and say Lindsey just became to verbally abusive to work with anymore.
The whole debacle just makes Stevie and Mick look bad.
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Stevie and Karen thought everything Lindsey did was abusive. “Lindsey has requested that we turn the music down ...” They thought that was abusive.
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Imagine in an alternative reality that the band's audience had invested more interest in the music and the instrumental and vocal craft of Fleetwood Mac than in the epic psychodrama. Would there have even been an epic psychodrama? The latter is like the Iliad; after fifty years, no one knows whether it started as true and degenerated, or whether it was originally written by a single visionary and then picked up by an oracular committee of fellow bandmembers and rock press, or whether the it is the only actual, verifiable truth about the band—all those other stories about them playing instruments in a cool way or singing in weirdly wondrous three-part harmony being just press agent fluff. The shippers think they're hurt? How about those of us who thought the band's achievement was its music?
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It seems music always has to be sold with some story. It can't just be "Talented people get together to make great music." |
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The conspiracy theories are what kills me. Numerous people on social media claim they lied to protect his income and image etc. Please if he was abusive in any way towards anyone I highly doubt they would have let that pass. Christine wouldn't have taken that lightly. People need to wake up and realize she instigated this for no good reason. I know some of you don't want to admit the truth but as a long time SN Fan her actions this past year were pretty low.
If you have to lie on TV and then refuse to talk about it etc then you know what you have done. The band may be selling out but it doesn't take away what they did to him and what the have become ( a stale nostalgia act resting on the same 10- 15 songs with a handful of deep cuts vs making new music and being creative). Sadly they are all about the money. |
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You say that after they fired Lindsey, FM became a stale nostalgia act. Isn't that what they've been for the most part since 1996? With the exception of the Say You Will tour, every tour since was just that, yet you say they only became a stale nostalgia act once Lindsey was fired. Lindsey may have wanted to record new music, but he was just as fine touring without it as the other members were, or he wouldn't have done it. And he did so, several times. After hearing Say You Will and the EP, I would much rather hear deep cuts than new music. Deep cuts performed live is like performing new songs, only better, because they were recorded when the band were at their creative peak. Yes, FM is all about the money. So is Lindsey- that's why he sued them for millions of dollars, because they cut him out of the tour. The same tour you say was a stale nostalgia act resting on the same 10-15 songs they always do. Lindsey wanted to be a part of that stale nostalgia act. I can't criticize anyone for wanting to make money, not Fleetwood Mac and not Lindsey. |
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Did you even read the lawsuit?
"You say FM fired Lindsey for no good reason, but in their eyes, they obviously felt they had good reason to, otherwise they wouldn't have." LOL...right out of the gate you're jumping to giant conclusions with this statement and giving these people way more credit than they probably deserve. It's been publicly stated that this was indeed at Stevie/Lindsey riff and Stevie put the ultimatum on the table. Christine was left in the dark John just went with the flow Mick supported Stevie because....that's what those two do. I'm trying to be kind here.
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With that in mind, we also don't know how Stevie is behind closed doors. If you look past the gold dust cloud, you can see she's not exactly the person she's letting her fans believe she is. Quote:
Now they're with the "we don't know what truly happened" card. Well, Stevie told us what happened. But she lied. Same with Mick. Because they had no excuse for what they did other than Stevie being jealous of BuckVie (the bond, not the money they made) and of his family. And they're IN NO WAY protecting Lindsey because he did something bad. Please!!!!!! Quote:
Straight from the mouth of a longtime SN fan. I don't know what else they need.
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Why did they deny he had been fired? Why did they lie on national tv about the reasons? And why did that lie involved Lindsey?
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I'm sure many of them would do ANYTHING to get Stevie's approval. Too bad she doesn't even know who they are. They're just numbers on a sold out arena.
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"I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective. What that did was to harm the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny." Lindsey Buckingham, May 11, 2018. |
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he sued them to get the truth out. the truth that so many apparently still don't want to see. it's easier to pretend these people are "angels" bringing the light and sounding oh so great. let's pretend that regurgitated pre-written pre-supplied reviews with exact same wording and talking points from date to date reflect the reality. #refreshed
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