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With Sting and Phil Collins, I really can't tell much of a difference in the sound, whether they're with their band or not. But because of Chris and Stevie, FM doesn't have much in common with LB music (except for the obvious LB link). I think one of Lindsey's problems is that his ideal audience wouldn't be people who like FM. There's probably a group who does want his music, but they aren't at FM concerts. He should have gone and joined a "new wave punk spice" band and then he would have been exposed to more people likely to follow him as a solo artist. Michele Michele |
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Trouble was certainly designed for commercial success, but the rest of the album -- not so much. And, given Tusk's performance, Lindsey had to know that more of same would doom Law and Order, but he didn't change the recipe. As for Go Insane, if he wanted to use FM to launch that album, I think he would have stayed with the band through the Tango tour, raked in the money, let everyone see him, as he traveled around the country, keeping his identity in their minds, and then sprung his solo album on them. Instead he left FM, didn't maximize that band exposure, waited a couple of years before releasing a solo album, and then didn't tour on that solo album. However, I understand your argument that he didn't do any of that because he didn't really know how to do it. Thus, proving your point. Michele |
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People tell their grandchildren that Tusk's failure is why there was pressure never to do anything like Tusk again, which resulted in Mirage. In retrospect, decades later, most people consider Tusk a success now, but that was not the case when the album debuted. It wasn't thought of as a success, in the band, at Warner Bros. or among the public in general, which is why it didn't make financial sense to release a solo album that would be even less commercially accessible than Tusk was, since Tusk had just bombed. But I don't think Lindsey was thinking about what made financial sense. Then came the more commercial Mirage, with a tour that was also cut short because Lindsey didn't want to be involved, so that money-making opportunity was curtailed too. Michele |
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But, onto another topic, if L&O was released on 10/81 at roughly the same time as BD (7/81) - why was La Nicks villified for releasing a solo recored and to my knowledge, LB was not? In other words, La Nicks and Mick have said it was a big deal, the band never discussed it, if she failed it could hurt FM, etc. I do not recall any talk like that about LB. Clearly, they worked on solo material at the same time. She was a larger star, but his failure could have hurt the band as well. Maybe because she had done the very successful "Whenever I Call You Friend" in 1978 - could that be a factor? |
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But, your only point is you hate her. So be it. Last edited by strandinthewind; 04-15-2008 at 04:30 PM.. |
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As the New York Times put it: '' Tusk ,'' widely regarded as a commercial failure for having sold a mere two million copies, won Mr. Buckingham critical admiration for his willingness to ditch a hit-making formula in favor of daring sonic experimentation. Or as the Chicago Tribune describes it: "Tusk," the Buckingham-driven Fleetwood Mac now-classic that was regarded as an adventurous failure when it was released in 1979. Quote:
Now, the tables have turned. He seems to want FM now and has ever since SYW. As soon as SYW came out, Lindsey started saying that he would never have to make another solo album again, if he could continue to express himself through the band and make new FM records. And he wanted to tour then. Wants to tour now. Even says he'd be up to doing a BN tour. His change and eagerness kind of scare me, because he was not that way about the band in the past. Michele |
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You never identified the point as being that the closer he released a record to an FM album, the better the record sold. That's something you just decided to say. Whether his solo albums would sell more closer to FM releases is hard to say, because he never made a habit of releasing solo albums on the heels of FM releases or tours. Law and Order was the closest he got to doing so and then he never made an album as close to FM (the Tusk tour ending) as Law and Order was again. But maybe he can remedy that lapse for the first time, this time around and test your theory, by trying to release his solo album in the middle of the Sheryl Crow/FM mania. Michele |
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Good Lord - The Tusk record sold well by any rationale standard as did the tour. That gave him exposure. If you can't see that, then I think any further posts are useless because you will never see it. And, I have consistently in this and other threads talked about the records and tours together as one big period of time. So, don't try to say I did not Last edited by strandinthewind; 04-15-2008 at 04:40 PM.. |
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He likely was told not to do it again because they wanted another 15 + million record a la Rumours. That they did not get that does not negate the fact that Tusk sold well by a rational standard and the resulting tour ( ) sold very well and played to hundreds of thousands of people. As to the second point, I often wonder about L&O sounding differently. He did not have much time, esp. for him, after Tusk to get it ready, which makes me think he recorded much of it during Tusk (record and tour) and likely before. So, who knows the effect the comparative failure of Tusk (the record) had on him and L&O. |
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