Peter Green interview

[mzero]

Originally Posted by Ms Moose

Here it is (at last):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM2bGKBX2ZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFRtzI47x-U

Ms Moose

mm - thanks for posting this. it was gone by the time i got to following the link. the poster closed their account, so both had vanished.

however i ran across this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSnw...eature=related

which is claimed to be 'homework' 1968 live in france. it's definitely homework and definitely live.

also a fragment of pete in orkney with the the bb allstars doing black magic woman. its ragged...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Jd_88BCNY

solos are traded, pete plays the first quietly in a typical low key splinter group approach, then there is louder solo by unidentified. then wait for the 3rd, the break right before pete starts singing again, near the end of the clip, a very close take on the original release solo, played in a different tone. that's pete playing that, right?

zero

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by mzero

however i ran across this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSnw...eature=related

which is claimed to be 'homework' 1968 live in france. it's definitely homework and definitely live.

That's a great clip, and it is indeed from France. The band recorded it live in Paris for the French TV show "Surprise Party". Christopher Hjort's "Strange Brew" book dates the taping as being done on 27 November 1968. The show was broadcast on New Year's Eve. The band also performed "My Baby's Sweet" and "Please Find My Baby" (sometimes incorrectly listed as "Dust My Broom"), both numbers led by Jeremy Spencer. Those two clips can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yGkkufpq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxUlxUwB2k

[mzero]

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

That's a great clip, and it is indeed from France. The band recorded it live in Paris for the French TV show "Surprise Party". Christopher Hjort's "Strange Brew" book dates the taping as being done on 27 November 1968. The show was broadcast on New Year's Eve. The band also performed "My Baby's Sweet" and "Please Find My Baby" (sometimes incorrectly listed as "Dust My Broom"), both numbers led by Jeremy Spencer. Those two clips can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yGkkufpq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxUlxUwB2k

sf2k- oh my goodness! jeremy spencer! great, great clips.

i hadn't seen either of these. thanks for the links and the background. i notice from the pr forum that you grew up in the bay area. so you really are a sharks fan.

zero - 10 in 68

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by mzero

i notice from the pr forum that you grew up in the bay area. so you really are a sharks fan.

I am, but they keep disappointing me year after year!

[Ms Moose]

Originally Posted by mzero

mm - thanks for posting this. it was gone by the time i got to following the link. the poster closed their account, so both had vanished.

That's a pity. Maybe they will be put back on again. That happenes sometimes.

Ms Moose

[Ms Moose]

Originally Posted by mzero

solos are traded, pete plays the first quietly in a typical low key splinter group approach, then there is louder solo by unidentified. then wait for the 3rd, the break right before pete starts singing again, near the end of the clip, a very close take on the original release solo, played in a different tone. that's pete playing that, right?

zero

Yes, it looks and sounds like Peter Green is playing it, but it is more subdued and less powerfull than the original.

Ms Moose

[mzero]

Originally Posted by Ms Moose

Yes, it looks and sounds like Peter Green is playing it, but it is more subdued and less powerfull than the original.

Ms Moose

ms moose- thanks for confirming.

it is a loose take, and his voice doesn't sound strong or clear, so i can understand why some of the youtube comments on the clip are to the effect that 'he's lost it.'

but when i listen to him play i hear someone capable of, well, tossing off the original solo from black magic woman if he happens to be in the mood. that he's not playing an out of phase les paul, at less than half the volume and has altered the phrasing makes it seem subdued and less powerful, but i don't know that it is exactly that.

i've heard a lot of splinter group renditions of black magic woman and nigel always played the solo. every time the thought creeps in, well maybe he really can't do it anymore. of course a song or two later pete would do something like play 'the stumble' or 'the supernatural' better than his mayall versions and i'd wiseup. so, even though this is a shambling pick-up band performance of black magic woman, i kind of think that he hasn't lost it at all.

zero

[Ms Moose]

Originally Posted by mzero

ms moose- thanks for confirming.

it is a loose take, and his voice doesn't sound strong or clear, so i can understand why some of the youtube comments on the clip are to the effect that 'he's lost it.'

but when i listen to him play i hear someone capable of, well, tossing off the original solo from black magic woman if he happens to be in the mood. that he's not playing an out of phase les paul, at less than half the volume and has altered the phrasing makes it seem subdued and less powerful, but i don't know that it is exactly that.

i've heard a lot of splinter group renditions of black magic woman and nigel always played the solo. every time the thought creeps in, well maybe he really can't do it anymore. of course a song or two later pete would do something like play 'the stumble' or 'the supernatural' better than his mayall versions and i'd wiseup. so, even though this is a shambling pick-up band performance of black magic woman, i kind of think that he hasn't lost it at all.

zero

Yes, I agree with you. The "recording" is very primitive, and his voice sounds as if he hasen't used it for a while. Still his voice has changed a lot since his younger days, but still as soulful and emotionally to the point as ever (not particularly in this take, but on the Splinter Group recordings).

Peter Green is an enigma in many ways, and I think that his playing is a lot about mood, and I think it always has been. It used to sound more mercurial and driven (this is what I mean by powerful) - but his mood - or moodswings are different now (of course - he is not 23 anymore!). Actually I think the same thing has happened to a lot of the so called guitar-heroes - they just got noicy, boring and repetetive - which he never did. "The tone" is still there (or was - as nobody has heard him play for four years).

I only saw Splintergroup once in september 2002, and I felt exactly the same way: "he has lost it...oh, no he hasn't".

His version of The Stumble on You tube (clip from The Splintergoup DVD) is brilliant - and it's gets better with every listen. And how brilliant it is becomes very clear when you compare it to Gary Moore and Mick Taylor's versions. They are very energetic....and boring (I hope I don't offend anyone by writing this).

Ms Moose

[doodyhead]

you did not offend me,

every time i listen to peter's old stuff , I think " Why isn't he singing and playing like that now"

Yet every time I listen to him doing dangerous man, or real world I think that he has just wonderful timing that you can't learn . He has matured and grown in ways we will never know.

Too many artists work too hard in sounding "brilliant" and "snazzy".
Peter knows what it is to "sell" a song and as such is a song interpreter. This is not any different than how they used to sayabout his playing

"saying more with less" This is a great lesson from BB King it could just as well have been from Frank Sinatra or Bobby Darrin

doodyhead