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Old 07-28-2023, 10:10 PM
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  • Fourteen cuts on Fleetwood Mac Deluxe (plus four from TV)
  • Eleven cuts on Rumours Deluxe
  • Twenty-one cuts on Tusk Deluxe
  • Fourteen cuts on Live Deluxe
  • Eighteen songs on Rumours Live at the Forum
You know for the die hard fan that I am I never bought any of these releases. I downloaded cuts from them during their initial releases. But after you wrote this list I went to youtube and listened to the live tracks from each of these that interested me and discovered I never heard that live Rhiannon from the Rumours Tour before and I like it very much.

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When I went back to count up everything, Viv, I was amazed at the number: 78 live cuts.
Wow 78 live songs sounds great. But in all that time we've only gotten 3 live Rhiannon's and I need more. In fact I want every live Rhiannon from the Tusk tour from May of 1980 to August of 1980. Rhiannon live is like a drug to me. I can never get enough. Of the 3 Rhiannon's we have I was and still am blown away by the Tuscon version from August 1980. Whosever decision it was to release this is the person I want to know so I can beg him/her for MORE!!

I also want to say that when I originally downloaded The Chain demo by Stevie, it was a snippet and that's all I had for all these years until yesterday when I heard the whole thing. So that Chain demo, that live Rhiannon, that alt. Sable on Blonde from one of Stevie's deluxes and Brown Eyes with Peter Green & Lindsey are my favorite songs from all the deluxes released so far.
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It’s so odd that Don’t Stop wasn’t on the set list. It’s got to be in the top 5 of MAC songs that are played in such heavy rotation even today.
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Old 08-09-2023, 09:03 AM
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It’s so odd that Don’t Stop wasn’t on the set list. It’s got to be in the top 5 of MAC songs that are played in such heavy rotation even today.
I really find that hard to believe as well. How could it not be on there?
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Old 08-09-2023, 04:06 PM
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I really find that hard to believe as well. How could it not be on there?
Someone who knows more will surely correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Don’t Stop got a permanent place in the setlist until after the Tusk Tour started. It was definitely played in 1979 but I’m not sure at every show especially early on. It had that early in the set location through Tusk and Mirage and then with Chris’s solo tour and beyond was near the end/encore.
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Old 08-09-2023, 08:11 PM
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Someone who knows more will surely correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Don’t Stop got a permanent place in the setlist until after the Tusk Tour started. It was definitely played in 1979 but I’m not sure at every show especially early on. It had that early in the set location through Tusk and Mirage and then with Chris’s solo tour and beyond was near the end/encore.

This feels correct. Mirage it was near The Chain. can't remember just after or maybe after Dreams.
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Old 08-09-2023, 08:35 PM
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This feels correct. Mirage it was near The Chain. can't remember just after or maybe after Dreams.
Yeah I think it was typically SYLM/Chain/Don’t Stop/Dreams/Oh Well/Rhiannon with Monday Morning replacing Say You Love Me for those late 1980 shows and Second Hand News during Mirage.

It’s become so “normal” to see Don’t Stop at the end of the night that it is weird to think of it being early on in the show (or not in the set at all!). It’d be like Go Your Own Way being the opener.
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Old 08-09-2023, 09:45 PM
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Yeah I think it was typically SYLM/Chain/Don’t Stop/Dreams/Oh Well/Rhiannon with Monday Morning replacing Say You Love Me for those late 1980 shows and Second Hand News during Mirage.

It’s become so “normal” to see Don’t Stop at the end of the night that it is weird to think of it being early on in the show (or not in the set at all!). It’d be like Go Your Own Way being the opener.
Isn't that weird???
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It’s so odd that Don’t Stop wasn’t on the set list. It’s got to be in the top 5 of MAC songs that are played in such heavy rotation even today.
Yes, I posted a thread about this many months ago. I was listening to Rumours shows and it was not there. However it was played a few times or at least one leg of the tour. I suspect since Dont Stop was the 4th single, it was not practiced or anticipated to be released when the tour started. Each singer performed their single and another song from Rumours. Chris picked Oh Daddy and YMLF.
It was not until Tusk that the song became a regular in the set. Looking back it is odd since Dont Stop is one of their biggest hits. But I think it also explains the unexpected success of the album. It seems they practiced and were prepared for 3 singles.
Almost similar is Everywhere. It was the 4th single from Tango. When the tour started Little Lies was climbing the charts. When I saw the tour it was not being performed. This is why I think on the Tango Concert video you see them performing it not in front of an audience. It looks like they are trying it out and including it on the video. If my memory is correct, I think at some point they may have added it to the show. However, the US leg of the tour ended in mid December 1987. Everywhere was released one month prior so I think the last weeks of the tour they may have played it.
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Reviving this thread, as the record is out today.

It sounds great; for some reason, I've particularly been enjoying Blue Letter. And it made me chuckle when John says that the show was over because they hadn't been together very long and didn't know any more songs!
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Reviving this thread, as the record is out today.

It sounds great; for some reason, I've particularly been enjoying Blue Letter. And it made me chuckle when John says that the show was over because they hadn't been together very long and didn't know any more songs!
They’re discussing this release over at the Steve Hoffman music forum.

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I'm in Vancouver, BC/Canada and listened to it on my AirPod Pros. I biked around Stanley Park with it blasting in my ears.
I'm impressed. And yes, Blue Letter is fantastic. Their virgin voices and harmonies are spot on. Other times, the intonation is all over the place.. but it's still better than what they do now with their 17 back up singers.

This show has (IMO) of the best vocals on a live Songbird I've ever experienced. I wish it was piano only so she would work a little harder and throw a solo in the bridge, but wow, it's very touching and she's truly connected to the lyrics.

Strangely, Dreams is also pretty damn good and didn't bore me.

ISA isn't fully developed yet (it's almost of the Tusk tour quality) still amazing however.

Christine's maracas on Oh Well are fabulous. She even throws in some B3 in the latter part of the song.

YMLF vocally her voice is so pure. She goes sharp vs. flat throughout the show.

Rhiannon is ok. I feel like Christine is trying to sing opera on the harmony and kind of kills that sensation they usually give me.

Stevie's Landslide is the best I've heard live. By Tusk, I can't stand this song because she doesn't breathe correctly and her phrasing kills the sentiment of the beautiful, sublime, gentle studio version.

NGBA!!! Regular speed!! And it has brushes and bass. vs. Tusk where he thinks he's clever and slows it down with that bellowing. (much like his ex on Tusk tour Landslide). It's ok to sing straight tone legato guys!!

The Chain is fantastic as is GYOW. I will say Mirage Forum versions of these songs are superior in intensity. But, not to say they don't nail it here 5 years earlier.

Blue Letter is wonderful. The three voices are a little more balanced than other live versions that I've heard.

Best SYLM that I've heard. Also Over My Head is wonderful.

Correct me if I'm wrong, David O, but we've heard this GDW before. And maybe we've heard the Oh Daddy too? They sound awfully familiar to my fuzzy brain. Anyway, such a treat to hear them raw and not quite full of themselves.
I would like a full concert of 1976, too! Official release, of course.

Interested to hear what you all think. I know Macfan will have a 10 page report.
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I'm in Vancouver, BC/Canada and listened to it on my AirPod Pros. I biked around Stanley Park with it blasting in my ears.
I'm impressed. And yes, Blue Letter is fantastic. Their virgin voices and harmonies are spot on. Other times, the intonation is all over the place.. but it's still better than what they do now with their 17 back up singers.

This show has (IMO) of the best vocals on a live Songbird I've ever experienced. I wish it was piano only so she would work a little harder and throw a solo in the bridge, but wow, it's very touching and she's truly connected to the lyrics.

Strangely, Dreams is also pretty damn good and didn't bore me.

ISA isn't fully developed yet (it's almost of the Tusk tour quality) still amazing however.

Christine's maracas on Oh Well are fabulous. She even throws in some B3 in the latter part of the song.

YMLF vocally her voice is so pure. She goes sharp vs. flat throughout the show.

Rhiannon is ok. I feel like Christine is trying to sing opera on the harmony and kind of kills that sensation they usually give me.

Stevie's Landslide is the best I've heard live. By Tusk I can't stand this song because she doesn't breathe correctly and her phrasing kills the sentiment of the beautiful, sublime, gentle studio version.

NGBA!!! Regular speed!! And it has brushes and bass. vs. Tusk where he thinks he's clever and slows it down with that bellowing. (much like his ex on Tusk tour Landslide). It's ok to sing straight tone legato guys!!

The Chain is fantastic as is GYOW. I will say Mirage Forum versions of these songs are superior in intensity. But, not to say they don't nail it here 5 years earlier.

Blue Letter is wonderful. The three voices are a little more balanced that other live versions that I've heard.

Best SYLM that I've heard. Also Over My Head is wonderful.

Correct me if I'm wrong, David O, but we've heard this GDW before. And maybe we've heard the Oh Daddy too? They sound awfully familiar to my fuzzy brain. Anyway, such a treat to hear them raw and not quite full of themselves.
I would like a full concert of 1976, too! Official release, of course.

Interested to hear what you all think. I know Macfan will have a 10 page report.
Great breakdown, but—

Those “opera” vocals on Rhiannon are Stevie, not Christine! Christine is singing her straightforward harmony part. Stevie is doing a coke-induced soprano tremolo.
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