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Bekka is the greatest singer FM ever had. She STILL has pipes to die for. I went and saw her band in Nashville pre Covid, several times, and she was awesome. And stood out in the sidewalk like some commoner on break, smoking her cancer sticks. I asked her about Time, and she acted shocked that I knew about it. The band truly could have had a new horizon, with her as the singer, if they'd only been given the chance.
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The one and only time I saw them was fall 1994 (after Stevie’s superb concerts in Northern California at Arco Arena with Rick Vito and Russ Kunkel). Mac was playing Konocti Harbor Spa in Clear Lake, a buffet dinner club with about 200 people eating chicken and rice pilaf at their tables. After dessert was finished, you turned your chair toward the small stage at one end of the room — and there was Fleetwood Mac. Not exactly auspicious.
They played essentially the same set (five or six Mac hits and several Mason numbers, just over an hour) with the same confused listlessness and flippancy. Afterwards, I went out on the boat dock and talked to Mick Fleetwood, who was smoking a cigarette and staring out over the dark water. It didn’t really matter who was in the band at this point. The band had no focus, no raison d’être. It was as if their arrest warrant and death sentence had already been signed, not only by their label but the public, as well. They had sunk to the level of a side dish with your chicken and rice.
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I had lawn seats, and the people around me were bitching incessantly, "this isn't Fleetwood Mac!"
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Could they though? They’d have to totally disassociate themselves with the Rumours era of the band and there’s no way that was going to happen at that point. Even if the Time album had been pushed, how could they reasonably tour it effectively with Christine on the album but not on the road? And by the time we’re talking about, with Hell Freezes Over still making obscene amounts of money, no doubt that any restart of Fleetwood Mac was going to be to reset it back to the 1975-87 era.
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However, that would have required leaving an insane amount of money on the table. I don’t think Mick or John would have been willing to do that, and it would be hard to blame them, since it’s the same amount of work either way.
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Though the original rhythm section is there, the total absence of the three singers, who probably were the main reason for many people in the late 70s to become Fleetwood Mac fans, makes people (and media, record companies, etc.) not interested in this lineup.
Bekka had a great voice there. But, with all respect, this sounds like a tribute band to me.
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So, I was looking at the page dedicated to the OOTC tour and noticed something curious: The first leg of the OOTC tour ended around the same time Billy quit Fleetwood Mac, maybe within a week of each other in April, 1993.
Now I’m wondering how the Time band was even allowed to exist. Why the label didn’t intervene and why Lindsey didn’t reach out is curious. By that point, Warner’s and Lindsey knew he wasn’t viable as a solo artist and it should have been obvious, especially after the inauguration, that a new version of Fleetwood Mac fronted by people who weren’t on Rumours wasn’t going to be viable. I don’t get how Lindsey could stand by and watch a brand he helped build get dragged through the mud, unless it was a matter of letting them humiliate themselves so he could be a white savior. Ironically, his bassist left the tour after the first leg, so there was even a perfect opening for some type reunion or offshoot. The whole debacle is as much on Mo Ostin, Lenny Waronker, and Lindsey Buckingham as it’s on Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, IMO.
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I am sure they were offered deals but clearly were not ready and rejected them. I dont buy the conspiracy theories because Lindey's solo tour ended the same month as Billy leaving the band? But then Billy came back to the band. With all the fuss over the inaugural the band put out countless statements they were NOT getting back together and it was a one time gig. Lindsey could see the shape Stevie was in 1993 and still wanted no part the madness. Chris did not even want to record Time and had to be forced to do it. I believe no serious talk of a reunion happened until at least 1996 when everyone hit rock bottom. Time flopped and the band saw they could not go on, Stevie almost quit performing, Chris left and wanted out of CA and go back to England. Her house was just finished since renovations started in 1990.
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Lindsey knew by then that his creative vision that he saw come to fruition wasn’t connecting and wasn’t viable. Similarly, the label should have known a new version of Fleetwood Mac fronted by people who weren’t on Rumours wasn’t going to be viable. At that point Fleetwood Mac should have been shelved indefinitely and Lindsey, Mick, and John should have formed an offshoot, allowing them to record music and tour that would be credible and more viable than the alternatives, while keeping the door open for a full Fleetwood Mac reunion.
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Didn't the 4 of them start working together late 1996 and then they called Stephanie?
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