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If it's Lindsey back, who's going to run the rehearsals and build the set...Lindsey again? Stevie complained about having to rehearse during the afternoon because Lindsey had to have dinner with his family. I don't see Lindsey becoming a softie for her either just because he was welcomed back. If you have Mike, you have somebody who can hear them both out, he respects Lindsey and I don't think he kisses Stevie's ring. He, partly, is responsible for the success of her solo career. I remember when RS asked him what he had to say in response to Stevie saying "Tom shouldn't have done the 2017 tour." He basically said Stevie's coming from a place of love but wasn't around and didn't know that Tom really wanted to do the tour. He's his own Legend. Considering he produced Patti's first album, I'm sure he could get in the E Street Band anyday too. |
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I have friends who’ve had hip replacements. My father had one. All are almost as good as before their hips went bad and are living normal lives. One of them even asked if he could get the other one done. So, losing someone so consequential to something so relatively minor...Stevie’s absolutely right.
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The context of the interview was that with the comment by Stevie, there could be a feeling of responsibility by Mike to have talked Tom out of it. I think Mike said nobody forced Tom to tour, he wanted to do the 2017 Tour. Regretfully, I didn't go. I last saw them on Hypnotic Eye. |
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Stevie is the one who needs to do all the groveling to Lindsey, and she won't. Lindsey always thought Mick was weak/no balls so had no problem with him, even in 2018. he had a big problem with Stevie after what she did to him (which, to all who insisted otherwise, Mick basically confirms in this interview is what happened). Lindsey doesn't need FM so if he decides to apologize to Stevie just so he can do yet another greatest cashgrab tour he would be equivalent to Mick in sad weakness. it better never happens.
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but sure, all healing and peace and love talk now. you can tell how much i love hypocrites.
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Sounds like Mick had his issues with Lindsey and they’re finally talking about it, now. Quote:
Mick was frustrated by what happened during the tour negotiations, which by all accounts were absolutely brutal.
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These people don't have many tours left in them. Sadly, one or more of them stand a chance of passing away within the next 10 years. Christine is nearing 80. As far a rehearsing, what's the point? They've been playing the same set list for years, then throwing in one or two deep album tracks. Moreover, the way sound engineering is done for touring artists now -- its basically like singing to karaoke tracks. Much is pre-recorded and cannot be deviated from. What's to rehearse? That's mostly Stevie drama -- she sits up there and pretends like she has to rehearse "Gold Dust Woman" and "Dreams" at 2 o'clock in the morning for the tour to be successful. Laughable. |
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I tend to think Mick has been around the Stevie-Lindsey drama that he approaches it more strategically than with any personal stakes. He has tried to smooth it over enough to keep the machine going, but he’s generally moved to whatever position is best for continuing (his payday with) the band. Right now, there’s probably some sense that they don’t want to wait for her to do a solo album and tour before another FM tour. But whatever comes out of the gates first post-pandemic is likely to be pretty lucrative.
I doubt Mick holds much against Lindsey re: negotiations or things going south with Stevie. He seems to accept that Stevie and Lindsey are opposites and will always fight. He went hard after Lindsey after the firing to shore up support for Stevie and the band. Now that she may be the holdout to an even bigger payday, he’s softening his stance on Lindsey. It reminds me of how they all said pretty nasty stuff about Lindsey when he left in 1987. Put him down to promote the new, even better version of the band that just so happens to be playing shows near you! This would all be easier to tolerate if FM didn’t spend the better part of 40 years selling the schtick that the band is about family and relationships and isn’t just a business arrangement among people who don’t like each other, like the Stones or the Eagles. Because that’s really what it is and perhaps always has been. It’s hard to look back at the band, especially post Tusk, and argue that money wasn’t the primary — and perhaps only — driver. Maybe Lindsey was right about cycles. It’s just that the cycles that actually dominate FM are dysfunction and greed, not healing. |
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I'm sorry but do you think the dance that she does during the outro of Gold Dust Woman just creates itself? That type of coordinated art doesn't just manifest out of thin air. Likewise with Dreams, or Rhiannon, do you think finding even less nuance and excitement from the low energy levels of the previous tour just happens? It takes hours and hours, from 10pm-3am, to come up with these things. Plus, I mean, Stevie is a big ROCK AND ROLL STAR! And she's cool. And we all know the cool kids don't even get their party started until after Midnight.
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I'd argue the Stones in 1989 kind of began that trend for the classic rock genre. Except they released a new album every time they toured until 2013 (maybe '99). But it was basically, we're going to come out every few years and play the songs you know along with maybe a few new ones to try to keep us relevant. The boomers are starting to enter their peak earning years, want to relive their youth, and had the money to do so. We're here to help for one night! It really was inevitable for any of these bands who did it because it was a massive payday opportunity. Quote:
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^At least in 2013, they had 2 new songs to play at each show. From 16-18, they did stuff from B&L.
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I have not been on here in ages but I came the second I saw that interview. Mick is a money-grubber, plain and simple, the second it occurred to him that Stevie will prob never tour with the Mac again, he reached out to LB, I'm convinced it was just that simple. But either way, this won't happen. Concerts aren't happening any time soon, they're all old AF and the insurance would be crazy.
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