New Mick interview with Alec Baldwin

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

No. He sent Keith Olsen over to convince both them to join.

And then Mick called Lindsey after Keith spoke with Stevie and Lindsey?

Thank you.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

And then Mick called Lindsey after Keith spoke with Stevie and Lindsey?

It’s never been mentioned if it did. Other than the day Mick met Lindsey while studio shopping at Sound City, the first contact was the Mexican restaurant night.

[UnwindedDreams]

^Oh okay. It's interesting, in this new interview Mick says that when he asked Lindsey to join the band, Lindsey made it very clear that if he was to join, that Stevie would be joining too.

Then he goes on about loyalty and mercy.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

^Oh okay. It's interesting, in this new interview Mick says that when he asked Lindsey to join the band, Lindsey made it very clear that if he was to join, that Stevie would be joining too.

Ever since 1997, they’ve been fuzzy with their history. They’ve embellished and romanticized some parts of their story while minimizing or flat out ignoring other parts. Mick’s 1990 comments mirror what Keith Olsen said, which leads me to believe that accounting.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Ever since 1997, they’ve been fuzzy with their history. They’ve embellished and romanticized some parts of their story while minimizing or flat out ignoring other parts. Mick’s 1990 comments mirror what Keith Olsen said, which leads me to believe that accounting.

Here I was thinking that Stevie joined FM on NYE 1974. But the Mexican restaurant dinner was in 1975!
Gees these seniors are not doing well upstairs!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Here I was thinking that Stevie joined FM on NYE 1974. But the Mexican restaurant dinner was in 1975!

Yep. And, not to shatter anyone’s illusions about the band, but Mick’s first phone call after talking to Olsen was to Mickey Shapiro, not the McVies.

[UnwindedDreams]

^Holy smokes, so there may never have been a phone call from Mick to Lindsey.

Maybe he's speaking this way about Lindsey because he spoke with him last year and might want to be creative with him outside of FM.

[Villavic]

Mick's 1990 book:

Being without much in the way of cash, Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham were almost immediately put on salary, two hundred dollars a week each, as new members of Fleetwood Mac. We may have paid a little of their rent as well, but I can't remember. No one really had much money then; we were just surviving at that point.
Everything of Fleetwood Mac's was still in Bob Welch's name because we had no green cards that would let us work and earn money in the States. I remember that the $200,000 record advance from Warner Bros. to me, John, and Chris went directly into Bob's bank account and that years later he got a hell of a tax bill.

[michelej1]

Stevie is responsible for their success because Lindsey got a job offer and she told him to take it? By that logic I’m responsible for Jeff Bezos’ success. I said, “Why don’t you try selling books, man?” And lo, I made him what he is today.

If Lindsey did not have a girlfriend who pouted every time he did a gig without her (oh why am I stuck in Aspen), maybe he would’ve been inclined to go out on the road more and would have garnered even more opportunities, without the albatross around his neck.

That Lindsey, If Stevie had not listened to those albums front to back and back to front, he’d be a bum looking for handouts on the corner today.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie is responsible for their success because Lindsey got a job offer and she told him to take it? By that logic I’m responsible for Jeff Bezos’ success. I said, “Why don’t you try selling books, man?” And lo, I made him what he is today.

If Lindsey did not have a girlfriend who pouted every time he did a gig without her (oh why am I stuck in Aspen), maybe he would’ve been inclined to go out on the road more and would have garnered even more opportunities, without the albatross around his neck.

That Lindsey, If Stevie had not listened to those albums front to back and back to front, he’d be a bum looking for handouts on the corner today.

Lindsey, given a choice, would rather have continued with Buckingham Nicks. That “pouty girlfriend” was also his musical partner for a project he strongly believed in. Lindsey didn’t want to go out on the road as a sideman, he wanted Buckingham Nicks to be a headlining act.

However, the reality is Buckingham Nicks was over the minute Mick Fleetwood called Keith Olsen. If Lindsey had refused, Stevie would have bolted on him, because the reality was Buckingham Nicks got dropped and didn’t have anything going for them, beyond a few cities in the Deep South, except for the offer from Fleetwood Mac. Stevie understood the equation and wanted to join the viable band because she was tired of being a waitress. It was the offer of a lifetime, even at that stage in the band’s history. Lindsey was still clinging to the dream, but that dream wasn’t going to come true, at least not the way he wanted.

Stevie, as half of the partnership, was the one saying that it was in their best interest to suspend the partnership and merge what they had been doing into Fleetwood Mac. So, while his guitar playing led to the phone call, she was the one who forced the issue.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

If Lindsey had refused, Stevie would have bolted on him

Stevie does say they likely would've made it doing country rock or rockabilly if they didn't join FM.

I do agree Stevie would've bolted. I think she would've called Mick and offered to join with Waddy.

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie is responsible for their success because Lindsey got a job offer and she told him to take it? By that logic I’m responsible for Jeff Bezos’ success. I said, “Why don’t you try selling books, man?” And lo, I made him what he is today.

If Lindsey did not have a girlfriend who pouted every time he did a gig without her (oh why am I stuck in Aspen), maybe he would’ve been inclined to go out on the road more and would have garnered even more opportunities, without the albatross around his neck.

That Lindsey, If Stevie had not listened to those albums front to back and back to front, he’d be a bum looking for handouts on the corner today.

lmao i love you and your sense of humor!

heh true, re her making huge scenes every time Lindsey took a gig for longer than a week, she still talks about it when explaining Landslide. imagine if he took 8-week FM gig without her?! Olsen probably REALLY wanted to make sure he doesn't have to deal with Stevie if she stays behind so made clear upfront she has to go if Lindsey goes.

and yeah, obviously Lindsey was already very familiar with FM music if he was talking about not being on Peter Green's level as a guitarist, while she has never heard of them and had to go listen to their music from back to front.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

heh true, re her making huge scenes every time Lindsey took a gig for longer than a week, she still talks about it when explaining Landslide. imagine if he took 8-week FM gig without her?! Olsen probably REALLY wanted to make sure he doesn't have to deal with Stevie if she stays behind so made clear upfront she has to go if Lindsey goes.

Which is kind of my point. There’s no realistic way Lindsey could have joined without her that didn’t end up with her in the band anyway.