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Old 07-29-2020, 08:12 PM
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NOTS is an event celebrating her, attended by persons from all walks of life, because, when asked, she said she was happy that LGBTQ community members attend doesn't make her a fighter for the LGBTQ community like Cyndi Lauper, Grace Jones, or Bette Midler.
Those are two different standards. Just because someone isn’t a fighter for the LGBTQ community doesn’t mean they’re anti-LGBTQ. Fleetwood Mac has generally been an apolitical band. I think Greenpeace was the only political issue they have publicly endorsed, even John.

Since Stevie isn’t a gay woman and likely not surrounded by gay women in her bubble, it’s probably an issue that’s generally not on her radar.
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Those are two different standards. Just because someone isn’t a fighter for the LGBTQ community doesn’t mean they’re anti-LGBTQ. Fleetwood Mac has generally been an apolitical band. I think Greenpeace was the only political issue they have publicly endorsed, even John.

Since Stevie isn’t a gay woman and likely not surrounded by gay women in her bubble, it’s probably an issue that’s generally not on her radar.
I didn't say she was anti-LGBTQ rights. Where did you get that from?

Not sure what you're contributing here, Liz Rosenberg.
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I didn't say she was anti-LGBTQ rights. Where did you get that from?
Where did I say “anti-LGBTQ RIGHTS?”

I just said anti-LGBTQ, nothing about rights.
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Where did I say “anti-LGBTQ RIGHTS?”

I just said anti-LGBTQ, nothing about rights.
I don't refer to millions of lives as "LGBTQ" as you do in a Trumpian breath; I say "LGBTQ community"
When you say "anti-LGBTQ" I give you the benefit of the doubt you meant to say "anti-LGBTQ community"
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I don't refer to millions of lives as "LGBTQ" as you do in a Trumpian breath; I say "LGBTQ community"
When you say "anti-LGBTQ" I give you the benefit of the doubt you meant to say "anti-LGBTQ community"
Good for you.

However, I wasn’t talking about the LGBTQ COMMUNITY, either. That’s not the debate.

You know, you might have a better chance of making your point if you quit resorting to name calling (Karen, Trumpian), strawmen arguments, and red herrings.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you?
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Good for you.

However, I wasn’t talking about the LGBTQ COMMUNITY, either. That’s not the debate.

You know, you might have a better chance of making your point if you quit resorting to name calling (Karen, Trumpian), strawmen arguments, and red herrings.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you?
I saw you call someone an "obtuse pain in the ass" Was that not name calling?

I didn't say Karen Johnston, I said Liz Rosenberg, who's a publicist.
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I saw you call someone an "obtuse pain in the ass" Was that not name calling?

I didn't say Karen Johnston, I said Liz Rosenberg, who's a publicist.
Liz Rosenberg is dead.
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Those are two different standards. Just because someone isn’t a fighter for the LGBTQ community doesn’t mean they’re anti-LGBTQ. Fleetwood Mac has generally been an apolitical band. I think Greenpeace was the only political issue they have publicly endorsed, even John.

Since Stevie isn’t a gay woman and likely not surrounded by gay women in her bubble, it’s probably an issue that’s generally not on her radar.
Thank you for getting to the gist of the discussion!!
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