LINDSEY performance with LeeLee "Landslide" May 17

[Fannymac]

So.....given this turn of events, do we think we'll see "Blue Light" this year, or will it be held back to (at least!) 2020??

[Nicks Fan]

On Facebook some woman replied to the post in the Lindsey news page that while she was happy he was seemingly looking and doing better (Not the exact word for word post but similar) and then she added that he was still milking Stevie's talent. Some people are clearly brain dead with comments like that.

[sue]

How can he be hijacking anything, he must have been invited or at least the choir knew and must have rehearsed with him...

I couldn’t give a sh*t anyway....He looks well, fit and HAPPY.....

[elle]

Originally Posted by Fannymac

So.....given this turn of events, do we think we'll see "Blue Light" this year, or will it be held back to (at least!) 2020??

My guess would be not before 2020, if he’s planning on actually ever singing again, seeing how firmly shut his mouth was in these clips. It seems entirely possible that if he wants to get his singing voice back he may need another surgery, or at least a very long period of making it work. Whatever Rod Stewart had I think he said it took him well over a year to be able to start singing again... I know Rod had a completely different cause for voice loss but....

That said I would love to be wrong and he releases it this fall and follows it by some kind of public performances or something, anything!

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by elle

My guess would be not before 2020, if he’s planning on actually ever singing again, seeing how firmly shut his mouth was in these clips. It seems entirely possible that if he wants to get his singing voice back he may need another surgery, or at least a very long period of making it work. Whatever Rod Stewart had I think he said it took him well over a year to be able to start singing again... I know Rod had a completely different cause for voice loss but....

That said I would love to be wrong and he releases it this fall and follows it by some kind of public performances or something, anything!

Yes, this really struck me too!

[jellyman10]

Almost six years to the day since I last posted here, but here goes...

I think this performance of 'Landslide' is the beginning of the choreography of public reconciliation. (I believe the private reconciliation has already happened, or is under way.)

In this choice of song, choice of accompanist, decision to record and release the video, I don't see 'we go high', in the sense of being a retaliation in an ongoing battle. I see a signal that a peace treaty is coming.

KB in particular has a little bit of a climbdown to do, having engaged her antagonists in public. That was COMPLETELY understandable and justified, btw. Don't come at me claiming I'm saying she was wrong. She. Was. Not.

But their rhetoric - hers and LB's - is now about love, and forgiveness. And I think they're sincere about that. So prepare yourself. LB might not go back to the band, but there is going to be a rapprochement of some kind.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jellyman10

Almost six years to the day since I last posted here, but here goes...

I think this performance of 'Landslide' is the beginning of the choreography of public reconciliation. (I believe the private reconciliation has already happened, or is under way.)

In this choice of song, choice of accompanist, decision to record and release the video, I don't see 'we go high', in the sense of being a retaliation in an ongoing battle. I see a signal that a peace treaty is coming.

KB in particular has a little bit of a climbdown to do, having engaged her antagonists in public. That was COMPLETELY understandable and justified, btw. Don't come at me claiming I'm saying she was wrong. She. Was. Not.

But their rhetoric - hers and LB's - is now about love, and forgiveness. And I think they're sincere about that. So prepare yourself. LB might not go back to the band, but there is going to be a rapprochement of some kind.

I don’t know where you read forgiveness in KB’s posts. Love, yes, forgiveness, no. She mostly implied you just need to let it go and enjoy what you have. She just recently called them “awful people”, and she was being polite IMO.

Why would they ask for forgiveness if they’re still claiming that what they did was the right thing to do for the band’s survival?

[jellyman10]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I don’t know where you read forgiveness in KB’s posts. Love, yes, forgiveness, no. She mostly implied you just need to let it go and enjoy what you have. She just recently called them “awful people”, and she was being polite IMO.

Why would they ask for forgiveness if they’re still claiming that what they did was the right thing to do for the band’s survival?

Forgiveness and letting things go are close cousins. I said it was the beginning, that's all. As for why FM would want forgiveness - it depends on what everyone wants. There could certainly be a desire to express regret at how the situation escalated. But you're right: MF and CM have added a gloss to LB's ejection that it hard to come back from, but not impossible. I mean, you've seen these people, right? Mick could melt his neck down and make door knockers for half of England out of it.

I don't think LB will ever be back in the band, but that's more because of the complications of who replaced him. I wouldn't be surprised if NF and MC would be more than okay with it if Chris or John said they wanted to retire, and then the 'new band' can quietly dissolve without anyone calling them out on it.

I guess I think it's more about understanding. LB's big on that and I think SN also wants to move on, make peace before it's too late for either of them. They can agree to never see each other ever again, wish one another well, without being in a state of cold war. My hunch is that this 'Landslide' is the first move in making it known to the public that that's happened or is happening now. They're trying to move the fans' anger onto the same higher plane. Seems obvious to me.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jellyman10

Forgiveness and letting things go are close cousins. I said it was the beginning, that's all. As for why FM would want forgiveness - it depends on what everyone wants. There could certainly be a desire to express regret at how the situation escalated. But you're right: MF and CM have added a gloss to LB's ejection that it hard to come back from, but not impossible. I mean, you've seen these people, right? Mick could melt his neck down and make door knockers for half of England out of it.

I don't think LB will ever be back in the band, but that's more because of the complications of who replaced him. I wouldn't be surprised if NF and MC would be more than okay with it if Chris or John said they wanted to retire, and then the 'new band' can quietly dissolve without anyone calling them out on it.

I guess I think it's more about understanding. LB's big on that and I think SN also wants to move on, make peace before it's too late for either of them. They can agree to never see each other ever again, wish one another well, without being in a state of cold war. My hunch is that this 'Landslide' is the first move in making it known to the public that that's happened or is happening now. They're trying to move the fans' anger onto the same higher plane. Seems obvious to me.

Why is it so important that they're on good terms when clearly the band doesn't want to be on good terms with him? They kicked him out, they barely expressed concern after his heart attack (I'm still waiting for Nicks to dedícate Landslide to Lindsey), and after yesterday's news they still don't want to have anything to do with him. They're not asking for his or his family's forgiveness because they're convinced there's nothing to forgive.
They also don't care about the fans' opinion, as long as they're still buying tickets.

I wouldn't read much into this Landslide performance, really. Just another HS thing. Like many people have expressed here, it's a popular choice.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jellyman10

I think SN also wants to move on, make peace before it's too late for either of them.

sounds like you think that Stevie's recent pneumonia bout somehow made her foggy self-centered ignorant mind suddenly realize maybe there's hell where nobody cares if someone was a bigger commercial star, so now she all of the sudden has regrets? because she certainly didn't show any when Lindsey almost died or when she was turning 70 and instead of finally growing up decided it's the right time for a final stab.

[elle]

while i like your optimistic dreamy outlook, jellyman10, i see several things wrong with it -

you are looking for signals on the wrong side. LB was always open to reconciliation and forgiving those backstabbing evil people. he was always clear he loves them despite all their shortcomings. so Buck side is not where you should look for reconciliation signs. Mick and Stevie are the ones that need to grovel.

in just a few short weeks your theory will unfortunately most probably be completely debunked, when Fakewoods start again with their ridiculous advertising of the current tour. if they do a complete 180 in their tone and start putting LB in the stars where he belongs all of the sudden, instead of pretending he's insignificant little wheel in the long history of FM machine, that you were somehow miraculously right.

[jeets2000]

Originally Posted by elle

while i like your optimistic dreamy outlook, jellyman10, i see several things wrong with it -

you are looking for signals on the wrong side. LB was always open to reconciliation and forgiving those backstabbing evil people. he was always clear he loves them despite all their shortcomings. so Buck side is not where you should look for reconciliation signs. Mick and Stevie are the ones that need to grovel.

This is really the crux of it. I don't want to pile on jellyman10's theory -- Lord knows I've concocted a few in my day to try to explain the actions of these people... But the main problem with it is that Lindsey from Day 1 has always been open to reconciliation. From the texts to Mick that became public in the lawsuit to the CBS interview with Anthony Mason, he's always stated he has an openness to forgive them and move beyond this. Much to the chagrin of many here, and potentially even (at times) his wife.

It's the other side that's made no such statements and doesn't appear to know or care how their remarks about him come across. And we have no idea how they're interpreting this high school performance.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

It's the other side that's made no such statements and doesn't appear to know or care how their remarks about him come across. And we have no idea how they're interpreting this high school performance.

exactly. they have social media. Mick is posting pics holding his balls every 2 seconds on there. Stevie's social media is full of her self-promoting selfies.

so if one is looking for a sign there it is: anyone from FM could have easily posted a short blurb saying how happy they are seeing Lindsey's progress toward health, and wishing him well. nobody did.

i'm actually annoyed that this amazing family event is being made about that horrible band instead. not everything is about them. moving past them and their hate into the love of his family and friends is exactly for LB needs to heal.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

This is really the crux of it. I don't want to pile on jellyman10's theory -- Lord knows I've concocted a few in my day to try to explain the actions of these people... But the main problem with it is that Lindsey from Day 1 has always been open to reconciliation. From the texts to Mick that became public in the lawsuit to the CBS interview with Anthony Mason, he's always stated he has an openness to forgive them and move beyond this. Much to the chagrin of many here, and potentially even (at times) his wife.

It's the other side that's made no such statements and doesn't appear to know or care how their remarks about him come across. And we have no idea how they're interpreting this high school performance.

YES, thank you! It would be really nice if people stop reading between the lines. Stevie had the chance to reach out in Alabama when she chose to dedicate Landslide to the audience and barely mentioned Lindsey. They don't want any type of reconciliation because they don't see anything wrong in what they did to him. While Lindsey has been open to a reconciliation for whatever he may have done since day one.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

It's the other side that's made no such statements and doesn't appear to know or care how their remarks about him come across. And we have no idea how they're interpreting this high school performance.

They know how their remarks come across. That’s their intention.