The End of the Road? My Journey with Fleetwood Mac

[cbBen]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Billy Burnette had a similar experience- shortly after it was announced Lindsey had been fired and replaced by Neil and Mike, he had emergency heart surgery. Very sad, and thank God, like Lindsey, he's recovering.

Perhaps the stress of FM passing him over contributed to Burnette's issue too, and perhaps the band should be evaluating the medical condition of potential hirings and firings before making such moves.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by cbBen

Perhaps the stress of FM passing him over contributed to Burnette's issue too, and perhaps the band should be evaluating the medical condition of potential hirings and firings before making such moves.

Or just retire the dinosaurs(all of them).

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Or just retire the dinosaurs(all of them).

They're truly dinosaurs. Some people here think they're the greatest rock band of all time because they're ready to gross $100 million. I wouldn't expect less if you're bringing Campbell and Finn.

KISS is ready to gross $200 million.
If you think about it $100 million is lame.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by cbBen

Perhaps the stress of FM passing him over contributed to Burnette's issue too, and perhaps the band should be evaluating the medical condition of potential hirings and firings before making such moves.

Could be. But no agency or organization should hire somebody so they won't be stressed out, nor should they not fire somebody so they won't be stressed. Using your logic, would it have been ok for FM to fire Lindsey because a physical showed he had heart issues? Of course not, but you brought it up, so do you think that should be the case? A lot of people get fired and don't have emergency heart surgery... even in rock bands. Lindsey must be the exception. I could swear somebody said his father and brother died from some sort of heart issue. But some people (oh, why not just say names- you and elle) say that's just a coincidence and has nothing to do with what happened to Lindsey. It was all because FM fired him. Maybe Lindsey can sue FM again for causing him to have surgery. He wouldn't have a case, because no judge or jury would discount his family history and blame it solely on stress. Well, maybe the 5 people on this board who won't acknowledge the role heredity plays in heart disease or attacks... or at least in Lindsey's case.

It's funny that some people think heredity doesn't play any role in what happened to Lindsey. In others news, some people say the world is flat...

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by bwboy

It's funny that some people think heredity doesn't play any role in what happened to Lindsey. In others news, some people say the world is flat...

Same way some people think stress didn't play any role in what happened. He's 70 years old. He has been carrying his heritage for that long and yet..... was it coincidence that his heritage took a prominent role when he was fired?

In other news, a singer who never played any musical instrument in her entire life will be inducted to the RRHOF.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by button-lip

In other news, a singer who never played any musical instrument in her entire life will be inducted to the RRHOF.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by vivfox

OMG! Christine McVie was replaced by Stevie ****ing Nicks!!!!! Please!!!!! One song doesn't make her a piano player.

Next time you want to try to prove something, just say it. I'm not gonna watch another stupid video of Nicks twirling and telling someone what a martyr she is.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by button-lip

In other news, a singer who never played any musical instrument in her entire life will be inducted to the RRHOF.

Tina Turner? The Supremes? Madonna? The Temptations? I wasn't aware one had to play an instrument to be in the RRHOF.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Tina Turner? The Supremes? Madonna? The Temptations? I wasn't aware one had to play an instrument to be in the RRHOF.

Tina Turner was never inducted as a solo artist.

Madonna plays guitar.

Thanks for playing.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Tina Turner was never inducted as a solo artist.

Madonna plays guitar.

Thanks for playing.

LOL Well, Madonna is as well known for her guitar playing as Stevie Nicks is for her piano playing. And you made no comment about the Supremes, who played no instrument. So no, one doesn't have to play a musical instrument to be in the RRHOF.

And button-lip, thank you for playing

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by bwboy

LOL Well, Madonna is as well known for her guitar playing as Stevie Nicks is for her piano playing. And you made no comment about the Supremes, who played no instrument. So no, one doesn't have to play a musical instrument to be in the RRHOF.

And button-lip, thank you for playing

Nicks isn't known for her piano playing. At all. She even said she doesn't play piano. I always knew Madonna plays guitar. Maybe because is a bit more important in the music industry than Nicks.
Group efforts are not discussed here. The Supremes doesn't count. I also didn't mention The Temptations. Is different with groups.

As long as you have someone ready to PAY for your induction, you don't even need to distinguish the musical notes. That's why genuine ROCK women like Chrissie Hynde, Ann and Nancy Wilson, Tina Turner, and the list goes on and on and on, were never inducted as solo artists.

Coincidence that the same year she kicked Lindsey out of the band she was inducted as a solo artist? I don't think so.

[jeets2000]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

There may have been a few anecdotal instances of that, but enough people had their cell phones waiving during DDIO to tell me that’s BS.

lol, let me rebut your anecdote with a completely arbitrary one of my own! This is fun.

Originally Posted by bwboy

It's funny that some people think heredity doesn't play any role in what happened to Lindsey. In others news, some people say the world is flat...

Jeez Louise, guys, this isn't hard: no one is saying heredity didn't play a role. That includes Elle, who you called out by name for some reason, despite the fact she clearly articulated this in a previous post. And no one can say definitively that the events of 2018 CAUSED a heart attack. Quit propping up a straw man so you can feel like you are "winning" this argument.

What people are saying is the events of 2018 may have served as a contributing factor for this cardiac event. (See the difference? It's called nuance, and we're all capable of it!) It's a theory, and it doesn't strike me as all that unreasonable.

Also, and I don't want to speak for cbBen so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I definitely read his post as sarcasm.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

who you called out by name for some reason, despite the fact she clearly articulated this in a previous post. And no one can say definitively that the events of 2018 CAUSED a heart attack. Quit propping up a straw man so you can feel like you are "winning" this argument.

What people are saying is the events of 2018 may have served as a contributing factor for this cardiac event. (See the difference? It's called nuance, and we're all capable of it!) It's a theory, and it doesn't strike me as all that unreasonable.

maybe some people really don't get the nuance, or sarcasm. or health and disease, risks and contributing factors. or maybe they are just trolling. hard to know.

so for people not getting it, both my twitter post and the follow up below are #sarcasm.

come on! what would a cardiologist know about heart conditions?

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— elle (@ellellew) February 16, 2019

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

lol, let me rebut your anecdote with a completely arbitrary one of my own! This is fun.

Except that’s been pretty consistent in videos and reviews throughout the tour.

[jeets2000]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Except that’s been pretty consistent in videos and reviews throughout the tour.

Sorry, but waving a phone at a concert during a song that's been on the radio for 30+ years is not evidence that everyone doing so believes the same thing or is doing it for the same reasons. That's... preposterous? Surely you see this, right?