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Old 08-09-2018, 05:21 PM
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For the record, "I" am the originator of Old Goat Breath.


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Trey Effing Parker deserves all ďoriginality creditĒ on the whole goat thing in general. You just rearranged a new nickname
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:32 PM
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Trey Effing Parker deserves all ďoriginality creditĒ on the whole goat thing in general. You just rearranged a new nickname
"Bitter, party of one"
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:32 PM
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At least Mick hasn't responded in kind to KB on Instagram. That's one thing we haven't seen yet, a Fleetwood Mac social media war.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:36 PM
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...as if she was going to say anything else in that situation?
So she hasnít said anything to indicate she is looking forward to the new lineup, except for what sheís said, but what else is she going to say? Convenient argument, there.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:16 PM
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"Bitter, party of one"
Not bitter at all, just giving one of my all time favorite shows the credit for the goat.

And Iím regards to at least Fleetwood Mac, Iím probably the least bitter person on the board. Iím in shock at how well things have played out (much like Stevie Iím solely concearned with my happiness, and I donít think either of us should be made to feel bad for that, at least in this particular situation. There are thousands of other scenarios wen others should be considered.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:06 PM
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Not bitter at all, just giving one of my all time favorite shows the credit for the goat.

And Iím regards to at least Fleetwood Mac, Iím probably the least bitter person on the board. Iím in shock at how well things have played out (much like Stevie Iím solely concearned with my happiness, and I donít think either of us should be made to feel bad for that, at least in this particular situation. There are thousands of other scenarios wen others should be considered.
We often disagreed. But, it scares me how much we agree lately.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:08 PM
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Hopkins - you are one of the most longtime, respected posters on The Ledge. I think you actually like this Mac change. Your passive aggressive posts certainly hint a that. It is okay. Let the world know, you had grown tired of a Buckingham led Mac and are looking forward to the rebranded Mac.
Iíd be lying if I said I wasnít impressed by or happy with who they brought in. But, Iím not happy about what happened. Still, I try to be objective and see all points of view. I just donít dig the misrepresentation of the band as having some sort of evil conspiracy against Lindsey. Itís overly simplistic and ignores the history of the band.

Of everything I heard before it was made public, the one thing that has come out since is that there was some type of blowout between Stevie and Lindsey. While I donít know what was said or what went down, I have every faith that it could have been ugly enough to have caused a permanent fracture between them. A choice apparently had to be made between the two, and they went with the one that made the most financial sense. I donít agree with that decision, but I canít fault it. And, as a fan, Iím not surprised by it (LBCM instead of Fleetwood Mac).

Am I tired of Lindsey? I think his production style is a little stale and I hate his stage banter, but at least heís trying. I want him to study someone like Robert Pollard or Richard Thompson. Throw a little more caution to the wind.

As for Christine, she has always made a point to say she and Lindsey were never chums, that their relationship was mostly professional. Mick is like family to her and has been for 50 years or so, even when she was retired, while John was literally family. Her loyalty will always be with Mick and John, even if she disagrees with them. Itís unrealistic and unreasonable to expect something different from a 75 year old woman just getting back into what she loves, especially all theyíve gone through.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:15 PM
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As for Christine, she has always made a point to say she and Lindsey were never chums, that their relationship was mostly professional. Mick is like family to her and has been for 50 years or so, even when she was retired, while John was literally family. Her loyalty will always be with Mick and John, even if she disagrees with them. It’s unrealistic and unreasonable to expect something different from a 75 year old woman just getting back into what she loves, especially all they’ve gone through.
There's not enough information to determine, in my opinion. She might have signed an agreement w/ Fleetwood Mac upon her return. "you can come back, but it's not for a one off" One that Lindsey made clear he wanted. Who knows?

She may have called him after the firing. We just don't know.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:24 PM
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There's not enough information to determine, in my opinion. She might have signed an agreement w/ Fleetwood Mac upon her return. "you can come back, but it's not for a one off" One that Lindsey made clear he wanted. Who knows?
She could have hit them with breach of contract. She wouldnít have, though. Her loyalty is with Mick and John. What happened first, flying to Hawaii with Mick or sending Lindsey demos? Look at the liners on LBCM.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:35 PM
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She could have hit them with breach of contract. She wouldn’t have, though. Her loyalty is with Mick and John. What happened first, flying to Hawaii with Mick or sending Lindsey demos? Look at the liners on LBCM.
Well, regardless. She just came back to the band. This could very well be her last tour. Lindsey can't in good faith expect her to bail on his behalf. Especially, when it hardly involves her.

If she did(bail), I would faint of the goodness of that gesture. But, time is running out for her. That's her biggest priority. TIME (and not the album!)
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:39 PM
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I love how we are branded as Stevie haters meanwhile most of us were her biggest fans, until she turned into the cringeworthy person she is now.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:56 PM
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At least Mick hasn't responded in kind to KB on Instagram. That's one thing we haven't seen yet, a Fleetwood Mac social media war.
Kristen: "@MickFleetwood--Care to explain why my husband was fired?"
Mick: "@KristenBuckingham--Well, we don't use that word because I think it's ugly."
Kristen: "@MickFleetwood--You think that's an ugly word? Here I've got another one for you: ....mother f**er!"
Mick: "@KristenBuckingham--Well I never. In all my years of rock n roll, I've never heard such ugly language. I'm glad we fired your husband."
Mick: "Oops. How do I delete a tweet?"
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I love how we are branded as Stevie haters meanwhile most of us were her biggest fans, until she turned into the cringeworthy person she is now.
How do you think it feels to be branded a Stevie lover when we were cringing at her back in the Ď90s?
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:28 AM
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I love how we are branded as Stevie haters meanwhile most of us were her biggest fans, until she turned into the cringeworthy person she is now.
Exactly. They can't see how much $he'$ changed. Completely for the wor$e.
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Iíd be lying if I said I wasnít impressed by or happy with who they brought in.
To me, these choices were insult to injury.
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