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It’s not. Lindsey even gave up on it and ultimately made a Fleetwood Mac album that wasn’t credited to Fleetwood Mac. Stevie should have been gone a while ago. It didn’t happen, it won’t happen, and the band is playing on with her, without Lindsey, and with good artists. That’s the reality, and it could be worse, at least from the perspective of the band ‘67 to today. Quote:
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Lol Lindsey wasn't the one that gave her that power. Stevie earned it herself through her popularity and had it sealed in the post-Dance era. After that point in time, there's no record company/promoter/manager/anything that would support a 'Fleetwood Mac' anything if Stevie was choosing to sit it out. I'm pretty sure that if Lindsey was able to call it Fleetwood Mac he would have. But that just was never going to happen and anyone who genuinely thought that was possible is delusional. Mick crying to the press about his band being totally dead because Stevie was obsessed with her solo career and didn't want to tour in 2012 should've made that very clear. You can make a case for Lindsey going along with the 'this was never supposed to be a FM album' thing in the press but by then it was already done anyways and that was just probably so they wouldn't get too many questions that would leave them on tricky territory. If you listen to the full audio of the Rolling Stone interview, at the end of it the interviewers are talking to each other, one of them very directly says that the last time he talked to Lindsey, Lindsey had said he wants to do a Fleetwood Mac album but Stevie is holding it up because she doesn't.
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And, it’s not like Christine wasn’t retired for the better part of a generation, but we’re not supposed to talk about that, either, right? We’re totally supposed to forget that the 2014-15 tour was bigger than the 2013 tour, right? Christine and Lindsey didn’t focus so much on being seen as entities outside of Fleetwood Mac. Why would they? Christine had the lion’s share of hit singles. Quote:
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First of all I wasn't making a statement about how Stevie became so popular. Just that she did become that popular, more so than the other members and she is. She by far had the most successful solo career and to most people, she's the main 'recognizable' person that represents Fleetwood Mac. I'm not even saying that I think that's how it should be, but it is and that's why she has power. Because she puts butts in seats more than any other member. Christine coming back obviously was a great thing for lots of people which helped make the last tour such a hit. But the tours without her also did very well. A FM tour without Stevie would not sell that way. That's why promoters were willing to axe Lindsey if it meant making Stevie stay. Because they can do okay with another member gone again and they did in the past, but they won't sell they way they want without Stevie. And yes they absolutely would lol. All a record company will think about when they imagine an FM album without Stevie is the people who won't buy it and the people who would if it did have Stevie. Because for all those casual fans, when they see an album titled under 'Fleetwood Mac' and they don't see Stevie, they're going to be confused because to them Stevie is like the Mick Jagger of FM. They wouldn't buy a Rolling Stones album without Mick and so they won't buy a FM album without Stevie. But an LB/Chris duet isn't called Fleetwood Mac. It doesn't have that problem. It's going to have a very similar buying group and probably sell less yes, but in the end, they don't have to worry about 'This Fleetwood Mac album would've sold way better had Stevie been on it', because they didn't call it Fleetwood Mac and didn't market it as FM either-- probably a big part of why they kept repeating over and over the 'this was never supposed to be a FM album' line. And I totally disagree that Lindsey should've just quit the band lol. He's given so much of his life to that band, while he was no doubt frustrated about how things were going, he's like 70 years old and to have left at the point would've just 'tarnished the legacy' as he said. But maybe had he known that he'd get kicked out and it would be tarnished in a much worse way anyways, he might have. Who knows. That's a big 'what if'. And Lindsey was talking about the Classics shows when he said that. I'm not sure what that has to do with any of this. There's a pretty big difference between those shows and an album. Those shows got a lot of bad reviews all of which basically said 'this feels like an oldies cash grab' so it's really not a surprise Lindsey wasn't happy during them. I was actually surprised when I saw how many negative reviews the whole thing got. But it's not like he's gonna quit his damn band over two shows. Hence why he just said, referring to that situation, take the money and go. But that comment from the RS interviewers shows he wasn't exactly hiding the fact that he did want an album and Stevie was blocking it. |
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If you type "Fleetwood Mac" into Google and then do a "news" search, the only new information that comes up is Neil-Finn based. Little bits of him saying the same thing over and over about the surprise of getting the call. These micro-stories are trickling in alongside news of HIS upcoming album.
Ironically, FM appears to be on complete hiatus until Finn has worked out his solo commitments, etc. So, no touring, no new music, no stories, no clarifications, no side collaborations (ie: LBCM 2)--instead, these aging people are languishing through yet another year without much momentum or new work. The most disappointing part of all this for me is Christine's silence. When she reemerged from retirement, she claimed to have "dozens" of songs, a claim backed also by Fleetwood and Nicks. Well, the first LBCM was delightful. But, ultimately, I'd really like to hear 10-12 new Christine songs on a single album before, well, she gets too old to record or dies. How else could I say this politely? |
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Let's hope they can make some time to get together soon to at least put a couple of new songs together. The tour stops close to me are still so far off that I haven't purchased my tickets yet. Some new music in the coming months would be great!
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Sugar Mouse.... As an aside what are your thoughts on Kristen confirming that Lindsey never wanted to delay the tour at all? I assume you have seen her messages on Instagram?
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By agreeing to settle for calling a Fleetwood Mac album something other than Fleetwood Mac, by talking down upcoming Fleetwood Mac shows, by giving less than stellar performance at what had to be Fleetwood Mac’s biggest paydays of the year, and by suggesting a concurrent solo tour, Lindsey had already given up on Fleetwood Mac.
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Jesus ****ing Christ even this forum has to be taken over by the bitter assholes?
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lots of bashing
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Neil Finn's new song (with his son Liam) was just released this week and it's called "Hold Her Close". The song would sound great with Stevie on lead vocals and Neil/Christine on harmony vocals. In fact, they could simply record their version of the song and post it to Spotify and YouTube and that would generate some serious buzz. Here is Neil's version which will be on the new album coming out August 24. Stunning song ...
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I agree. She has never performed it without him. Not once.
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