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Stevie and Lindsey's chemistry musically and romantically has drifted just about completely apart..
Whereas, Christine and Lindsey seemed to have grown even with dormant years and a sea between them. And I dare say they care about the band's creativity more than the other members. I love that Lindsey has a solo album coming out as well. He's not hanging his hat on either of his careers. Admirable.
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I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!" Last edited by jbrownsjr; 02-07-2018 at 11:26 PM.. |
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As I said, look in the mirror. Disrespect is this board's first name...not middle but first.
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Stevie has always had a hard time with this notion. Whereas Christine and Lindsey are more of a collaborative effort for the sake of the band. The band is where the magic happens, in my opinion.
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I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!" Last edited by jbrownsjr; 02-08-2018 at 08:39 AM.. |
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According to your definition, you fit in perfectly.
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I agree completely. Projects where all their individual solo crap Is just thrown in, is when you end up with SYW, or BTM. Collaboration is how they finesse the FM sound.
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Seven Wonders came out amazing because of the background singing and guitar, keys, drums and bass. That synth is a really cool sounds. But really, that was sort of mailed in. SYW was a decent album, but it lacked that magic. example: Illume.. great song.. Christine on it would make it a dream.. In my opinion, adding Christine to Crystal was the best thing that ever happened to that song. The keyboard solo at the end of the song rides off into the sea.
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I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!" Last edited by jbrownsjr; 02-08-2018 at 11:53 AM.. |
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Yes John and Mick might have ideas, and those ideas are consulted when they contribute their parts. They are free to offer ideas about the full song, e.g. when Mick suggested a brass band on Tusk. John created the bass line to the Chain etc. But always the writer of a song has more of a say, in pretty much any band. And you're assuming Mick and John want that sort of active arranging role, which they have never indicated they do. As John says, "I can't see into the writer's head" sometimes when working on songs so the studio can be tedious for him. No one (anymore) tells mick or john "just play this and shut up" (Lindsey tried this in this past). I'm sure any of the writers ever in FM had more of a say of what they wanted a song to be, while being open to suggestions from others. So yes, Mick and John to some extent ARE beholden to the vision of Stevie or Lindsey or Chris. Just not slavishly. Your Stevie hatred is showing. ETA: Lindsey clearly did NOT change his vision for his songs on SYW and that contributed in part to the sense of disjointedness many find on that album. He then tried to impose that vision onto Stevie's songs and the result was not good. That is also part of the reason she's not keen on working on a band album with him at the helm again. It's so funny because if someone said Lindsey should let Stevie have full control over how Lindsey's songs should sound, people would freak out.
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^ This.
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The new leadership at WB following the December, 1992 death of WB head Steve Ross (not the guitarist) brought in changes that didn’t necessarily benefit the band. Ross had had a hands off approach to Warner Music, but the new head was described as a bean counter. By August, 1994, Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker, both champions of Fleetwood Mac, were out at the label. Given the poor performances of OOTC, Street Angel, and Time (and the lack of promotion for the latter two albums), I think Lindsey was being very cautious about how to proceed. He could have released a solo album a few years earlier, but he was encouraged to wait and see what was going on at the label and was entertaining offers from other labels. I suspect what was going to be GoS was recorded with the durability of becoming a Fleetwood Mac album, if needed. Quote:
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God, I missed you. ^^^
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Well, clearly many of us agree on this. I like Stevie's solo career, and I love Lindsey's and Christine's solo work, but only FM songs can make me jump up and down on the stage, sing in the middle of the street and forget about anything bad going on in my life. They're definitely magical together. And I can't wait to see them again.
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That's probably why nobody ever suggested it.
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