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Old 03-27-2016, 09:02 AM
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Default New BPI certifications!

Two new certifications to add to the already very long list!

• Fleetwood Mac - Dreams - Silver (200,000 digital copies).
• Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way - Gold (400,000 digital copies).

As I suspected, Dreams has been finally certified Silver but surprisingly, a Gold certification for GYOW which is fantastic!

So, for those of you who don't know what has been certified, I will list all of the certification in order of release date for album and single so everyone knows where things stand. I personally think that Rumours, Tusk,Greatest Hits, 25YTC, The Dance and TVBO need to be updated so we'll have to see whether that happens soon.

Anyway, here's the complete list of certifications for Fleetwood Mac in release date order, as of March 27th 2016:

(All releases pre-1975 have been certified accordingly but have not been published).

• Fleetwood Mac - Gold - 100,000 copies.
• Rumours - 11xPlatinum - 3,300,000 copies.
• Go Your Own Way - Gold - 400,000 copies.
• Dreams - Silver - 200,000 copies.
• The Chain - Silver - 200,000 copies.
• Tusk (album) - Platinum - 300,000 copies.
• Tusk - (single) - Silver - 250,000 copies.
• Live - Gold - 100,000 copies.
• Mirage - Platinum - 300,000 copies.
• Tango in the Night - 8xPlatinum - 2,400,000 copies.
• Everywhere - Silver - 200,000 copies.
• Greatest Hits - 3xPlatinum - 900,000 copies.
• Behind the Mask - Platinum - 300,000 copies.
• 25 Years ~ The Chain - Silver - 60,000 copies.
• The Best of - Gold - 100,000 copies.
• The Dance - Gold - 100,000 copies.
• The Very Best of - 5xPlatinum - 1,500,000 copies.
• The Very Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac - Gold - 100,000 copies.
• Say You Will - Gold - 100,000 copies.
• Rumours re-issue - Gold - 100,000 copies.

An extremely impressive certified total of 11,010,000 copies in the UK for releases after 1975 ONLY. And there you go!

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Old 03-27-2016, 12:20 PM
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Hi, are there any estimations for sales of the 1971 Greatest Hits? I'm surprised it doesn't have any sort of certification. I always seem to see copies of it knocking around at car boot sales etc.
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Old 03-27-2016, 01:25 PM
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Hi, are there any estimations for sales of the 1971 Greatest Hits? I'm surprised it doesn't have any sort of certification. I always seem to see copies of it knocking around at car boot sales etc.
Well I know that pre-1973, the certification levels were different and so they don't show them on the database. Also, I can't seem to find anything that gives any clue as to how many copies the early era albums sold.

HOWEVER. I know that the self-titled 1968 Fleetwood Mac album sold many copies here. I have seen or heard somewhere that it's around a million so I suspect that all titles before 1975 have sold approximately 3 million copies, and that is NOT including singles so probably 5 million including singles as Albatross sold loads.
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Old 06-10-2016, 06:45 PM
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NEW CERTIFICATION!!! Fleetwood Mac - The Dance. Platinum - 300,000 sales.
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Old 06-10-2016, 07:50 PM
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James can you tell us any solo project certifications?
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:04 PM
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James can you tell us any solo project certifications?
Well only Stevie has had BPI certifications and her list is as follows:

The Wild Heart - Silver. 60,000 copies.
Rock a Little - Gold. 100,000 copies.
The Other Side of the Mirror - Gold. 100,000 copies. (sold over 200,000 copies).
Timespace - Gold. 100,000 copies.
Crystal Visions - Silver. 60,000 copies.

Well that's the list but I know that Bella Donna has sold at least 100,000 copies but for some reason was never certified. Also, I know that Trouble in Shangri-La has sold around 30,000 and I would say the same or probably more for In Your Dreams.

My prediction for her whole catalogue is as follows:

Bella Donna - 150,000.
The Wild Heart - 80,000.
Rock a Little - 120,000.
The Other Side of the Mirror - 220,000.
Timespace - 100,000.
Street Angel - 30,000.
Enchanted - N/A
Trouble in Shangri-La - 30,000.
Crystal Visions - 70,000.
Soundstage Sessions - 10,000.
In Your Dreams - 40,000.
24 Karat Gold - 20,000.

So in total I would say that Stevie has sold around 900,000 albums in the UK. An educated guess but I think it's fairly accurate.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:49 PM
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interesting to look at the singles (and the chain was not even traditional single!) and how they compare to each other:

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1. Go Your Own Way - Gold (400,000 digital copies).
2. Tusk - (single) - Silver - 250,000 copies.
3.-5. Dreams - Silver (200,000 digital copies).
3.-5. The Chain - Silver - 200,000 copies.
3.-5. Everywhere - Silver - 200,000 copies.
[note i added ranking to James' original post, inside the quote]

surprised Don't Stop is not on that list. it seems to be their by far most known single.
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Old 06-11-2016, 05:58 PM
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Well only Stevie has had BPI certifications and her list is as follows:

The Wild Heart - Silver. 60,000 copies.
Rock a Little - Gold. 100,000 copies.
The Other Side of the Mirror - Gold. 100,000 copies. (sold over 200,000 copies).
Timespace - Gold. 100,000 copies.
Crystal Visions - Silver. 60,000 copies.

Well that's the list but I know that Bella Donna has sold at least 100,000 copies but for some reason was never certified. Also, I know that Trouble in Shangri-La has sold around 30,000 and I would say the same or probably more for In Your Dreams.

My prediction for her whole catalogue is as follows:

Bella Donna - 150,000.
The Wild Heart - 80,000.
Rock a Little - 120,000.
The Other Side of the Mirror - 220,000.
Timespace - 100,000.
Street Angel - 30,000.
Enchanted - N/A
Trouble in Shangri-La - 30,000.
Crystal Visions - 70,000.
Soundstage Sessions - 10,000.
In Your Dreams - 40,000.
24 Karat Gold - 20,000.

So in total I would say that Stevie has sold around 900,000 albums in the UK. An educated guess but I think it's fairly accurate.
An amazing flood of interesting data... thanks a lot.
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Old 10-28-2016, 05:13 PM
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Everywhere has just been certified Gold in the UK for digital sales in excess of 400,000.

This is great news and shows just how popular this song has become over the last few years. It largely stems from the Pony advert that was extremely popular back in 2013.

Anyway, great news!
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My prediction for her catalogue is as follows:


Rock a Little - 120,000.
The Other Side of the Mirror - 220,000.
Why would you guess those particular numbers?
I would think they'd be flipped.
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Why would you guess those particular numbers?
I would think they'd be flipped.
Well, it's an educated guess. I know that at the end of 1989, TOSOTM sold upwards of 190,000 copies. That's from a credible year-end source that I can no longer find but noted it down years ago. It debuted at #3 with really strong sales and is easily her best charting and possibly highest selling album here in the UK. Therefore I think around 220,000 is a fairly accurate assumption.

As for RAL, it was a very slow seller and only ever reached as high as #30 and spent a while at the lower end of the top 100. It was certified Gold here in the UK in February 1987 which shows how it took around 15 months to sell 100,000 copies. Therefore it is probable that it has sold around 120,000 possibly more but not a lot more as it was a very slow seller.

People outside the UK must not forget that TOSOTM was a considerable hit here in the UK and I remember seeing a publication from 1989 that showed that it was the best-selling album on CD format for a week. Her other albums sold very steadily but this album sold many copies in just one week. I think it sold around 100,000 copies in week one.

I hope that answers your question!

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Well, it's an educated guess. I know that at the end of 1989, TOSOTM sold upwards of 190,000 copies. That's from a credible year-end source that I can no longer find but noted it down years ago. It debuted at #3 with really strong sales and is easily her best charting and possibly highest selling album here in the UK. Therefore I think around 220,000 is a fairly accurate assumption.

As for RAL, it was a very slow seller and only ever reached as high as #30 and spent a while at the lower end of the top 100. It was certified Gold here in the UK in February 1987 which shows how it took around 15 months to sell 100,000 copies. Therefore it is probable that it has sold around 120,000 possibly more but not a lot more as it was a very slow seller.

People outside the UK must not forget that TOSOTM was a considerable hit here in the UK and I remember seeing a publication from 1989 that showed that it was the best-selling album on CD format for a week. Her other albums sold very steadily but this album sold many copies in just one week. I think it sold around 100,000 copies in week one.

I hope that answers your question!
Yay! One of her crappiest albums sells the most copies. It's only because Tango In The Night was a phenomenon in Britain.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:03 AM
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Yay! One of her crappiest albums sells the most copies. It's only because Tango In The Night was a phenomenon in Britain.
Yes, you're mostly right. TITN was a huge album here and that helped a lot but I have to say, it was largely because of Rooms on Fire as she went on 'Top of the Pops' and that show pretty much guaranteed you a UK top 40 hit. Also, I think it happens to be a fantastic song and single choice.

I've said this before but if Stevie had gone on TOTP back in 1981, 1983 and 1985 and had sung SDMHA, Stand Back or Talk to Me for the supporting albums, she would've sold many albums. That's just the way it worked back in the 80's.
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As for RAL, it was a very slow seller and only ever reached as high as #30...

People outside the UK must not forget that TOSOTM was a considerable hit here in the UK...

I hope that answers your question!

Thanks for your answer. I would have just assumed
that each following album sold less than the ones before.
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Thanks for your answer. I would have just assumed
that each following album sold less than the ones before.
In the US, yes. In the UK, no.
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