Stevie Nicks abortions

[skuncles]

Originally Posted by ~GoldDustWoman~

What statements? Also I think in the SA interview she was definently saying she had an abortion, not that she miscarried.

I'm a guy, but I have to believe that if a woman had a miscarriage she would say she had a miscarriage. Stevie's a celebrity, if she had a miscarriage then she would get this outpouring of support and sympathy. Yet, if she had an abortion that has the opposite effect on some people. So I don't think she would say abortion if she meant miscarriage, if anything it would be the other way around.
The problem is there are many fans, not just of Stevie but of many celebrities, who put these people on a pedestal and don't want to think of them as having any faults. Stevie has never claimed to be a perfect angel. She has said that she lived the rock and roll life and lived it to the fullest AND she wouldn't change a thing. This is why if and when her book ever comes out I think many fans may be in for a real shock. That may also be why she keeps putting it off. For years she said when she was 60 and retired she would put the book out, but she's still going and "people still care" so she can't just yet.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by skuncles

I'm a guy, but I have to believe that if a woman had a miscarriage she would say she had a miscarriage. Stevie's a celebrity, if she had a miscarriage then she would get this outpouring of support and sympathy. Yet, if she had an abortion that has the opposite effect on some people. So I don't think she would say abortion if she meant miscarriage, if anything it would be the other way around.

Stevie didn't say abortion in the article. That word did not come from her.

But I take your point anyway. If the quote is accurate and she did say she gave up 4 babies, then I would have to assume that she meant abortion, not miscarriage. You never make a choice to give up a fetus when you miscarry.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie didn't say abortion in the article. That word did not come from her.

But I take your point anyway. If the quote is accurate and she did say she gave up 4 babies, then I would have to assume that she meant abortion, not miscarriage. You never make a choice to give up a fetus when you miscarry.

Michele

But, she could have been forced to terminate the pregnancies for medical reasons...I'm just saying that it's possible and maybe even probable...

[LikeAWillow]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

But, she could have been forced to terminate the pregnancies for medical reasons...I'm just saying that it's possible and maybe even probable...

Not quite sure I'd go that far.

[CADreaming]

And, isn't 4 a high number of "oops" pregnancies for someone who (assuming she wasn't trying to get pregnant) was more than likely on the Pill?

[MacShadowsBall]

Don't forget Stevie's cocaine use. I'm sure that would not be good for a fetus.

[chiliD]

The posting of this article back in 1997 wreaked havoc that has come to be known to us long-time Ledgies as "The Great Ledge War of 1997".

When I saw the title of this thread, I knew exactly what was posted and it STILL sends shudders down my spine recalling those "dark, dark days". Not what the article says, but the possible reactions of relatively sane Ledgies and the faction of Stevie Nicks fans, both affectionately and simultaneously derrogatorily termed as "Chiffonheads". The volatileness of the disagreements, arguments & downright FIGHTS.

Doubt if there are still a handful of us still here who remember those days, but the memories are bad, people, VERY, VERY BAD!!

[AncientQueen]

I remember reading the Vox article when it came out - and in the context of Stevies existence during this years it made perfect sense, I have never doubted that she indeed had 4 abortions. At the height of her fame/the FM madness she had no stable day/night rhythm and probably forgot to take her pill on every third day - the drugs didn't help and birth control was certainly nothing male musicians could be bothered with before AIDS - and that were the types she had in her bed. I found her reasoning VERY lame, but when I thought about it - which female rockstar had a baby in the 70s or early 80s? I don't know about the pressures of fronting FM and having a solo career. Neither Linda Ronstadt, Ann Wilson or Christine went through a pregnancy, the former adoped, the latter had a sterilisation. Maybe it was that difficult. Grace Slick had her daughter in the early 70s, Olivia Newton-John and Pat Benatar had their daughters at an age when the Klonopin and the sideeffects were basically keeping Stevie from everything, let alone having a stable relationship or the possibility of a healthy pregnancy.

What really made me angry was the fact that she lamented about wanting a baby after 4 abortions. That was so stupid and thoughtless.

Later when this years became "the Klonopin years" her whining suddenly made sense and I felt very sorry for her, sitting there alone in the empty house, her only companion a journalist who published whatever she said in her numb state - her under the ll-considered impression that she deserved some respect, the journalist under the impression that there was a "has been" wreck to plunder.

Nowadays, I only feel sorry for the Stevie of those years, the sad custodian of the girl she was before, indeed the pale shadow of a woman. If that makes any sense

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

But, she could have been forced to terminate the pregnancies for medical reasons...I'm just saying that it's possible and maybe even probable...

Being "too busy" is not a medical condition. Clearly her abortions were voluntary; otherwise she would have made it clear that her pregnancies ended for other reasons. What I find more puzzling than anything else is that, given the calibre of her gentlemen callers, i.e., rock groupie poon hounds, what was she thinking when she was hiding the salami without protection? And considering her familiarity with pills and her access to script-friendly docs, surely she must have had easy access to birth control pills (and for practical reasons, they would have been useful for restricting/normalizing her menstrual cycle while on the road). At least Stevie is owning her mistakes and her tough decisions in this article rather than blaming the rest of the world. Given her vaunted status and the questionable state of her mind at the time, that is rather commendable.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Being "too busy" is not a medical condition. Clearly her abortions were voluntary; otherwise she would have made it clear that her pregnancies ended for other reasons.

And if Stevie was unable to carry a child to term, I'm sure we'd hear about it. She's not exactly used to keeping a lid on the melodrama. She'd be telling everyone the tragic tale of how she couldn't have a child physically, but was almost on the verge of risking her life to do it anyway and so on and so on. We'd hear about all the booties she knitted that were never to be. Michele