Name ONE song by Christine you really can't stand

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Yes, I suppose they did the best they could under the circumstances... but the album is a mess. It is easily Christine's weakest collection of songs for an album. This album is full of the kind of filler you would normally put in amongst better quality filler. And "Safe Harbour" has easily got to be the must unnecessary, perfunctory two-chord piece of crap ever to receive the "Fleetwood Mac" label. And WTF is up with the sound quality of this recording? It sounds like it was recorded in a vat of molasses.

Ok...I see that we're not even in the same universe regarding Heroes..., so it's best we just "agree to disagree"...

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Regarding the year 1974, I really can't come up with any landmark albums that came out that year. Even the Rolling Stones, The Who and Led Zeppelin sat out that year. Bob Dylan released a meh album that year. Queen, Neil Young and Yes also released meh albums too. And that's when Paul McCartney started to suck badly. All of the great bands that emerged in the sixties were still in transition to either becoming seventies burnouts or bad parodies of themselves. 1974 was a bit after hippie flower power died out, but a little bit early for punk and the second British Invasion. Classic middle child syndrome.

Just about the only decent album I can think of from 1974 is Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark, which is still a ridiculously overrated album for what it was. Yes, it's notable for being Joni's breakthrough in the jazz-pop realm, but it's certainly not her best collection of songs- that would be 1975's Hissing of Summer Lawns.

Again, we're not ever going to be in the same ballpark on '74, either (and especially in regards to your inflammatory remark about Sir Paul!! ). Thought we might have a meeting point with Joni and Court & Spark , but you shot that down before the sentence was finished. Nope, the Stones released It's Only Rock & Roll in '74, Zeppelin didn't release anything because they were touring the world in '74, Deep Purple was prolific that year with Burn AND Stormbringer...John Lennon released Walls & Bridges....and Dylan?

Again I ask: Were you even THERE in '74 or are you looking back on the year as some "historical reference point"? Because some of your comments really don't seem to come from a place of somebody who LIVED in that era...that they're from somebody looking back on a time before their own.

I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically

PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Paul McCartney/Wings - Band On The Run
Paul McCartney/Wings - Venus & Mars
John Lennon - Mind Games
John Lennon - Walls & Bridges
George Harrison - Dark Horse
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Ringo Starr - Goonight Vienna
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
Buckingham Nicks
Deep Purple - Burn
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Stormbringer
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Steely Dan - Royal Scam
CSNY - Four Way Street
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd
The Who - Who By Numbers
Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock & Roll
Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Muscle Of Love
Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Bob Dylan - Planet Waves
Bob Dylan - Before The Flood
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Leon Russell - Leon Live
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Welcome Back My Friends...
Poco - Crazy Eyes
Poco - Cantamos
Eagles - Desperado
Eagles - On The Border
Eagles - One Of These Nights

And, more that I don't have time to list. To me, those early/mid 70's were a "cup runneth over" with great music...'74 being right there in the middle of it all.

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Bob Dylan released a meh album that year.

and then

Originally Posted by chiliD

....and Dylan?

Hmm...I was just thinking that too chiliD! Ok so Planet Waves has a few not so great songs but Before The Flood Was Great...

Plus Planet Waves had Forever Young and The Wedding Song (which I had at my own wedding ceremony).

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Again I ask: Were you even THERE in '74 or are you looking back on the year as some "historical reference point"? Because some of your comments really don't seem to come from a place of somebody who LIVED in that era...that they're from somebody looking back on a time before their own.

I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically

PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Paul McCartney/Wings - Band On The Run
Paul McCartney/Wings - Venus & Mars
John Lennon - Mind Games
John Lennon - Walls & Bridges
George Harrison - Dark Horse
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Ringo Starr - Goonight Vienna
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
Buckingham Nicks
Deep Purple - Burn
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Stormbringer
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Steely Dan - Royal Scam
CSNY - Four Way Street
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd
The Who - Who By Numbers
Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock & Roll
Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Muscle Of Love
Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Bob Dylan - Planet Waves
Bob Dylan - Before The Flood
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Leon Russell - Leon Live
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Welcome Back My Friends...
Poco - Crazy Eyes
Poco - Cantamos
Eagles - Desperado
Eagles - On The Border
Eagles - One Of These Nights

And, more that I don't have time to list. To me, those early/mid 70's were a "cup runneth over" with great music...'74 being right there in the middle of it all.

Well, as someone who experienced the music of 1973-76 as a big "blob," I would like to bring the topic back to 1974 specifically. Other than Joni, I can't think of any "classic" albums from this year. There were many amazing albums released in 1973, 1975 and 1976, but I'm singling out 1974 as being particularly weak.

And for what it's worth, I was alive, albeit very young. But even still, AM radio was definitely a part of my daily life from early on, so, yes, I did experience this year firsthand.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Ok...I see that we're not even in the same universe regarding Heroes..., so it's best we just "agree to disagree"...



Again, we're not ever going to be in the same ballpark on '74, either (and especially in regards to your inflammatory remark about Sir Paul!! ). Thought we might have a meeting point with Joni and Court & Spark , but you shot that down before the sentence was finished. Nope, the Stones released It's Only Rock & Roll in '74, Zeppelin didn't release anything because they were touring the world in '74, Deep Purple was prolific that year with Burn AND Stormbringer...John Lennon released Walls & Bridges....and Dylan?

Again I ask: Were you even THERE in '74 or are you looking back on the year as some "historical reference point"? Because some of your comments really don't seem to come from a place of somebody who LIVED in that era...that they're from somebody looking back on a time before their own.

I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically

PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):
Paul McCartney/Wings - Band On The Run
Paul McCartney/Wings - Venus & Mars
John Lennon - Mind Games
John Lennon - Walls & Bridges
George Harrison - Dark Horse
Ringo Starr - Ringo
Ringo Starr - Goonight Vienna
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac
Buckingham Nicks
Deep Purple - Burn
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Stormbringer
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Steely Dan - Royal Scam
CSNY - Four Way Street
Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Blvd
The Who - Who By Numbers
Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock & Roll
Rolling Stones - Goat's Head Soup
Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Muscle Of Love
Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffitti
Bob Dylan - Planet Waves
Bob Dylan - Before The Flood
Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks
Leon Russell - Leon Live
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Welcome Back My Friends...
Poco - Crazy Eyes
Poco - Cantamos
Eagles - Desperado
Eagles - On The Border
Eagles - One Of These Nights

And, more that I don't have time to list. To me, those early/mid 70's were a "cup runneth over" with great music...'74 being right there in the middle of it all.

wheres Neil Young- Tonights the Night in that list. AAnd speaking of NY wasnt Four Way Street way before 1973?

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

wheres Neil Young- Tonights the Night in that list. AAnd speaking of NY wasnt Four Way Street way before 1973?

Did you not read my "And more I don't have time to list" disclaimer?

And, On The Beach & Times Fades Away would've been in there, too.

Re: 4 Way Street...yeah, probably...I most likely lumped it in that '73-'76 time frame due to that's when I actually BOUGHT the album (finally).

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Re: 4 Way Street...yeah, probably...I most likely lumped it in that '73-'76 time frame due to that's when I actually BOUGHT the album (finally).

4 Way Street is 1971

Adding to your list, apart from the ones I've mentioned in the above post, there was also Richard & Linda Thompson's I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight, Kimono My House by The Sparks, Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, Future Days by Can, Country Life by Roxy Music, George Jones' The Grand Tour, Brian Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets, Red by King Crimson and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis.

I guess it all depends on the kind of music you're into though, but for me 1974 was a very good year in music.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

4 Way Street is 1971

Adding to your list, apart from the ones I've mentioned in the above post, there was also Richard & Linda Thompson's I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight, Kimono My House by The Sparks, Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, Future Days by Can, Country Life by Roxy Music, George Jones' The Grand Tour, Brian Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets, Red by King Crimson and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis.

I guess it all depends on the kind of music you're into though, but for me 1974 was a very good year in music.

I guess your post kinda underscores my point that 1974 did not produce any truly landmark albums. There was no Quadrophenia or Harvest or Dark Side of the Moon or Physical Graffiti or Born to Run or After the Goldrush or Blood on the Tracks or Running on Empty, etc. It was just kind of a transitional period for music where legendary artists put out some of their lesser works, if anything at all. That's not to say that the albums you list are awful. It's just that they are mostly not considered among the legendary classic rock albums. Yes, Richard and Linda Thompson's album has been hailed universally by critics, but nobody really bought it. Same with Brian Eno. Same with Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, although I must admit that it was probably the most successful PG-era album- but still kind of obscure by Genesis' standards. Accordingly, my point is that Fleetwood Mac kinda stayed on-trend by releasing one of their lesser albums during this period of time. Yes, there were some classic tunes by Neil Young and Bob Dylan released around this time, but their albums from 1974 are not relative stand-outs among their respective catalogs.

[billwebster]

I know this is a controversial choice for this board, but I always tend to skip "Calumny" whilst I pretty much enjoy "Temporary One", "Hollywood" and tend to turn up "Bad Journey".

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by billwebster

I know this is a controversial choice for this board, but I always tend to skip "Calumny" whilst I pretty much enjoy "Temporary One", "Hollywood" and tend to turn up "Bad Journey".

Love Calumny... adore it in fact...

Love love love Bad Journey...

Hollywood... ehh... it's ok...

Welcome bill!!

[goldustsongbird]

Originally Posted by billwebster

I know this is a controversial choice for this board, but I always tend to skip "Calumny" whilst I pretty much enjoy "Temporary One", "Hollywood" and tend to turn up "Bad Journey".

I really don't like Bad Journey.

[Dodfather]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky, .

A wonderful album. Jackson had the most incredible run of albums in the early-mid 70s. His first five records are all stellar.

[GoldDustBoy]

I can't stand Everywhere. I like The Dance version, but the original studio version is too sugary for me. I have a demo version of Everywhere that was played during an interview with the band in 1987, and I think they should have leave it like that. I hate Bad Journey from ITMT too.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by GoldDustBoy

I hate Bad Journey from ITMT too.

Yeah, it's a travesty. Maybe without the background vocals. If I could hear the demo, now that could be quite interesting. As it is, please take Dan out of the will.

Michele

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Did you not read my "And more I don't have time to list" disclaimer?

And, On The Beach & Times Fades Away would've been in there, too.

Re: 4 Way Street...yeah, probably...I most likely lumped it in that '73-'76 time frame due to that's when I actually BOUGHT the album (finally).

Well its just I feel Tonights the Night is too good to be in the "and more" section. It's top 5 of all time by any artist for me. On the Beach and Time Fades also awseome but I had to pick my battle and only felt like bitching about TTN All three of those are better then the three Eagles albums you felt compelled to actually list

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by chiliD

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I graduated HS in '73, so that whole 1973-76 span just blends into one big blob of time for me (even moreso the longer time passes)...I don't really even count individual years in that era...for me, that was MY era musically

PERSONAL "Landmark" albums of that era 73-76 (if my chronology is correct):


Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Mystery To Me
Fleetwood Mac - Heroes Are Hard To Find
Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac

This makes sense that you would lump the white album into this group since, at the time of its original release, it was probably considered by most as "just another FM album with another lineup." I'm curious: you've probably been asked before, but what did you think of the White album and the "new" lineup when you first heard it?