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I think had Stevie given him the chance, he could've done nice things on her songs but she would not budge. |
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A song like Everybody Finds Out, beautifully written, would be amazing on an album like BuckVie.
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And Silver Girl was just awful. So nasal and lacks melody imo. This album needed to be edited. Not much wrong with the production.
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To be fair, I'd argue several of the songs were overproduced; Illume had those distracting weird voices; Say Goodbye had the unnaturally sped up guitars needlessly taking away from the song; most infamously, Smile At You was downright ruined.
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I was never a huge fan of that album, but if you paired it down to one it would have been really good. Yes Illume had those wierd voices and I agree they were bad, but the song just isn't that great. It's got a bout 3 notes in it. Say Goodbye should have been done closer to they way they performed it live. But he did a great job on some of her other songs. I liked Smile at you, thought he made it more interesting.
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IMO the worst song was Say You Will itself but that's not because of the production...the song itself is just awful. It sounds like a kindergarteners rhyme on crack. |
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Silver Girl drags, and if you listen to her demo in the documentary, he didn't actually change it much from her demo. She doesn't bring plinky piano demos in anymore to him, she spends time with her other musicians to bring more fleshed out production ideas to him. Her demo had flute on it, and he changed that to some sort of synthesized keyboard that sort of mimicked a high flute-y sound and played almost just what was on her demo. So it was one of her new found drone-y songs (she would repeat the same style on Cheaper Than Free and even on You May Be The One -- but Dave salvaged the latter one with his acoustic guitar; CTF was beyond salvage). It's like her "poems" are just long lists of words anymore. That's why I like Destiny Rules (even tho she cribs the same lines in Illume)-- he did a great job on DR with the guitar.
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How about saying something positive about the band? How about saying how much they have given you rather than the other way around. Honestly, I like Lindsey, he's *close* to being my favorite member and yes, he is by far the nicest and most generous when it comes to fans. But holy hell, the band must get sick and tired of hearing how they are such a thorn in his side. I agree with Stevie. Being 70 years old, she has the right to want to be happy.
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Also it wasn't exactly a few years. It was 12 years before. Last edited by dreamsunwind; 05-15-2018 at 11:57 PM.. |
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A few years? It was more like twelve years.
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Yeah it's been quite a long while since ITM and she's no spring chicken. I think it's the other way around and that LB had to fool around with her voice to make it sound PASSIBLE. This is NOT LB's fault. I mean you have heard her voice live lately right? Love Chris, but girlfriends voice is shot AF.
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I think he still wishes the band would be more 'out there' creatively but in general I think that was much more of an issue in the past than it has been in recent years and his speech about big/small machine is his weirdo way of accepting that. Plus I think he really valued that 'cycles'/coming full circle thing he always talked about. That's why he wanted them to do a final album, he really wanted to CREATE within the group and he valued wrapping up their final chapters. Ironically Stevie is the one who I think has most treated Fleetwood Mac like a thorn in her side. Lindsey may have bitched about it but hey, he still did the work and got his job done. Stevie on the other hand has blown them off/complained about them a bunch of times, ever since her solo career took off. Her lack of availability during Tango in the Night, the album that was supposed to happen soon after The Dance but didn't, the album that was supposed to happen after Unleashed but didn't, the 2013 tour that was actually supposed to start in 2012 but she said no, when 24 KG came out and she was complaining that she couldn't promote it enough because of the FM tour, wouldn't record with them etc. |
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IA. I think she's maintained the overall tone of her voice much better than Stevie and Lindsey but I watched videos of performances from the BuckVie tour and yikes at how many bum notes she hits. Like, a lot. Stevie and Lindsey's voices are shot too but I never really hear them hitting bad notes?
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