100 Best Albums Of The Decade

[tilthefirefades]

I'm not sure if anyone else had read this, but Rolling Stone released their "100 Best Albums Of The Decade" recently, and there is no Fleetwood Mac, or any of the artists associated with them. Say You Will, to me, is amazing and i believe deserving to be on there. Or what about Gift of Screws, Trouble in Shangri-La, or In The Meantime? Here's the link: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto..._the_decade/44

So do you all think some of the albums on there aren't as deserving? Because i certainly believe that Say You Will should be in the top ten

[Madness Fades]

of the Decade......Not a chance,
Defo not, be lucky to even have something in the top 500

Im my opinion yeah sure GOS would be in the top 10 or 20 and SYW maybe in the top 50. But Not to Rolling Stone.

[FMlex]

Yeah, that doesn't really surprise me that SYW is missing from the list.

I hardly like a single one of their choices.

[tilthefirefades]

Originally Posted by FMlex

Yeah, that doesn't really surprise me that SYW is missing from the list.

I hardly like a single one of their choices.

yeah, its seems to me that they wanted to just appear hip by choosing a ton of indie albums. most of which are definitely not good.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades

yeah, its seems to me that they wanted to just appear hip by choosing a ton of indie albums. most of which are definitely not good.

What ones aren't good?

I think there's a lot of great stuff on that list although I'd argue why some are there and not others but that's the general purpose of lists like this: they are not definitive, they're just a bunch of opinions.

I'm surprised that anyone would have thought Say You Will would have been a contender for the decade's best. I love it and it would probably be in my list but it's not like it got overwhelmingly positive praise when it was first released. I know I didn't see many five star reviews. In fact I'd be surprised if it made it on many magazine's lists of the best albums of 2003 let alone the decade.

[tilthefirefades]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

What ones aren't good?

Well I personally do not like Bon Iver, Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, or The Postal Service(I much prefer Death Cab). Plus, there are 3 U2 albums on the list, and just as previously mentioned Kanye and Eminem repeats. The only impact those two artists makes are controversial ones, as of late at least, and I have always been a huge Kanye fan. Maybe Say You Will wasn't groundbreaking, but it made just as big, if not bigger, an impact as the indie bands which did so to only the small group of people who listen to it.

[Hawkeye]

Gift of Screws was probably my favorite mac related album of this decade with Say Yow Will second but it doesnt bother me that neither of those are on there. Well actually I hate greatest hits albums but theres something special about both Crystal Visions and Soundstage that they are actually up there too. But theres no way either of those 2 would or should be on that list.

But Wow the real travesty is not one of Neil Young's Awseome albums this decade made that list. Greendale was the best album of the decade hands down to me and maybe of NY's career especially if we're talking about breaking ground. Prarie Wind also needs to be on that list, since in my opinion it improves on both Harvest and Harvest Moon. And then there's his most recent album Chrome Dreams II which is nothing out of the ordinary but I just think its a danmed good album. Actually his most recent album was Fork in the Road which really really sucks, but thats a huge advantage to putting out new material almost yearly it's OK for some of it to suck. Stevie Lindsey and the gang shouls be doing the same. Just release everything and stop thinking about, your average is bound to be way better then 50 percent!

Wow I just got off on some serious tangents. Wheres Trackaghost to agree with me on said tangents.

[louielouie2000]

I can't say I disagree with Rolling Stone for not including the Mac/solo albums... and that's rare. Fleetwood Mac, nor it's solo members really made any landmark albums this decade. Nobody did anything ground breaking, nobody reinvented themselves. Nobody had a breakout success. None of the albums changed the music biz. None of the albums had a lasting impact on the artists catalogue of materials. None of the albums had an impact on the genre, or influenced fellow artists. I could continue... but y'all get the point.

That's not to detract anything from the band and it's solo member's albums. I think In The Meantime, Gift Of Screws, and Trouble In Shangri La all rank among the best solo albums of Christine's, Lindsey's, and Stevie's solo careers. But that doesn't make them any more substantive in the presence of the sum of ALL albums recorded this decade. For better, worse, or indifference artists like Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Alicia Keys, and others came on the scene in this decade, and forever changed popular music, and left an indelible mark on the entire recording scene. You just can't say that for any of the Fleetwood Mac/solo ventures.

Granted, I think some albums are definitely left off this list (Taylor Swift has single handedly reinvented Country and Pop music in my eyes)... and some albums desperately need to be taken off (do we really need multiple Jay-Z, Kanye, Eminem, Radiohead, and Dylan albums listed??). And I definitely will agree that scanning this list it's very typical Rolling Stone: elitist, pompous, out of touch, and purposefully inflammatory. But I still don't think the Mac/Solo ventures belong on the list necessarily either.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Granted, I think some albums are definitely left off this list (Taylor Swift has single handedly reinvented Country and Pop music in my eyes)... and some albums desperately need to be taken off (do we really need multiple Jay-Z, Kanye, Eminem, Radiohead, and Dylan albums listed??). And I definitely will agree that scanning this list it's very typical Rolling Stone: elitist, pompous, out of touch, and purposefully inflammatory. But I still don't think the Mac/Solo ventures belong on the list necessarily either.

And Coldplay and U2! I think they've pretty much included all their releases of the past decade on there. But I don't agree it's that elitist, it is pretty predictable though.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

And Coldplay and U2! I think they've pretty much included all their releases of the past decade on there.

Which is 1) completely ridiculous, I agree, and 2) a sign that even Rolling Stone concedes that Bruce Springsteen's "Working On a Dream" is the turd sandwich wrapped in cellophane that it is. Springsteen is a perennial favorite of theirs ( even though I love "Magic", they rate it a bit highly here) but WOAD can't even crack the Top 100. So, kudos to RS on that point.

The lack of a Neko Case album seems like an honest oversight more than anything else (at least that's what I'm telling myself)

[SteveMacD]

IMO, not that it matters, but Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was the album of the decade.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I can't say I disagree with Rolling Stone for not including the Mac/solo albums... and that's rare. Fleetwood Mac, nor it's solo members really made any landmark albums this decade. Nobody did anything ground breaking, nobody reinvented themselves. Nobody had a breakout success. None of the albums changed the music biz. None of the albums had a lasting impact on the artists catalogue of materials. None of the albums had an impact on the genre, or influenced fellow artists. I could continue... but y'all get the point.

THANK YOU!

[seekerj]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I can't say I disagree with Rolling Stone for not including the Mac/solo albums... and that's rare. Fleetwood Mac, nor it's solo members really made any landmark albums this decade. Nobody did anything ground breaking, nobody reinvented themselves. Nobody had a breakout success. None of the albums changed the music biz. None of the albums had a lasting impact on the artists catalogue of materials. None of the albums had an impact on the genre, or influenced fellow artists. I could continue... but y'all get the point.

That's not to detract anything from the band and it's solo member's albums. I think In The Meantime, Gift Of Screws, and Trouble In Shangri La all rank among the best solo albums of Christine's, Lindsey's, and Stevie's solo careers. But that doesn't make them any more substantive in the presence of the sum of ALL albums recorded this decade. For better, worse, or indifference artists like Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Alicia Keys, and others came on the scene in this decade, and forever changed popular music, and left an indelible mark on the entire recording scene. You just can't say that for any of the Fleetwood Mac/solo ventures.

Granted, I think some albums are definitely left off this list (Taylor Swift has single handedly reinvented Country and Pop music in my eyes)... and some albums desperately need to be taken off (do we really need multiple Jay-Z, Kanye, Eminem, Radiohead, and Dylan albums listed??). And I definitely will agree that scanning this list it's very typical Rolling Stone: elitist, pompous, out of touch, and purposefully inflammatory. But I still don't think the Mac/Solo ventures belong on the list necessarily either.

In what way did they forever change music? The impact was that large? What they did had already been done, only we called it Madonna, Ozzy, and Tracey Chapman.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by seekerj

In what way did they forever change music? The impact was that large? What they did had already been done, only we called it Madonna, Ozzy, and Tracey Chapman.

In my opinion, artists like Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Alicia Keys, etc brought back around the era of the singer-songwriter again. There was so much pop fluff BS going on in the late '90s early/ '00s... think of Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, etc were the popular acts during that time. Artists like Amy, Alicia, Coldplay, and others made singer-songwriter music popular again... and seemed to incite (or at least be a part of) a trend back towards real MUSIC. Amy single handedly made Soul music cool again, and accessible to an entirely new audience. Alicia did the same with her jazzy sound. I'm not saying these are necessarily the best or even my favorite artists of the the decade... but their impact is undeniable. Amy's popularity opened the door for other acts like Adele, Duffy, etc. Whether or not you like any of the people I've listed, I'd take ANY of them any day over Britney freaking Spears .

I do have to agree that this decade has brought about no new Madonnas, Kurt Cobains, Pink Floyds, or anything truly groundbreaking. But the second half of this decade has had a decidedly welcome shift back towards artists who write their own songs, play their own instruments, and who aren't just studio creations. The Indie scene seems to be exploding... and once underground bands are going mainstream (who could have seen a weird little band like Owl City getting so much mainstream airplay? ). There's just a lot of good stuff brewing right now... a lot of potential. Yes, there are still Adam Lamberts, Lady Gagas, and crap like that... but there always has been, and always will be. Just look back at '77 for instance... the biggest singles of that year were by Fleetwood Mac, the Eagles, Billy Joel, Carly Simon... and... Debbie Boone .

[seekerj]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

In my opinion, artists like Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Alicia Keys, etc brought back around the era of the singer-songwriter again. There was so much pop fluff BS going on in the late '90s early/ '00s... think of Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, etc were the popular acts during that time. Artists like Amy, Alicia, Coldplay, and others made singer-songwriter music popular again... and seemed to incite (or at least be a part of) a trend back towards real MUSIC. Amy single handedly made Soul music cool again, and accessible to an entirely new audience. Alicia did the same with her jazzy sound. I'm not saying these are necessarily the best or even my favorite artists of the the decade... but their impact is undeniable. Amy's popularity opened the door for other acts like Adele, Duffy, etc. Whether or not you like any of the people I've listed, I'd take ANY of them any day over Britney freaking Spears .

I do have to agree that this decade has brought about no new Madonnas, Kurt Cobains, Pink Floyds, or anything truly groundbreaking. But the second half of this decade has had a decidedly welcome shift back towards artists who write their own songs, play their own instruments, and who aren't just studio creations. The Indie scene seems to be exploding... and once underground bands are going mainstream (who could have seen a weird little band like Owl City getting so much mainstream airplay? ). There's just a lot of good stuff brewing right now... a lot of potential. Yes, there are still Adam Lamberts, Lady Gagas, and crap like that... but there always has been, and always will be. Just look back at '77 for instance... the biggest singles of that year were by Fleetwood Mac, the Eagles, Billy Joel, Carly Simon... and... Debbie Boone .

Great points. Thanks for explaining. I get ya now!