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Old 12-17-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by doodyhead View Post
as for Kiln House:

I bought this Album when it was first released in US. My first FM album was Then Play On, I wemt back and bought English Rose /dog and dustbin re release as well as a double bundled FM in Chicago. These were released by Mike Vernon to capitalize on the belated press that FM got justt as PG was bolting.
Ah now we're getting somewhere. It's true, they were trying to capitalize on the belated press that FM got due to Green's early trail-blaze and those UK FM hits. But it should be remembered, most of the increasing acceptance of FM stateside early on came from Kiln House and beyond. Kirwan, Welch and McVie's tunes had as much to do with that than anything else. Only the very old guard of fans were into "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac" at that point (and yet you could always find a respectable handful of them at every concert setting, some quite shocked at Green's omission). You also cannot overlook the FM "name" he basically established earlier -- that was definitely part of bigger picture.

It was considerably different on the European side. The British in particular, but also the Germans, Dutch and Scandinavians, had a harder time letting go of the blues centered FM. Many of them took the loss of Green as a loss of Fleetwood Mac, since they were raised on its blues-rock core from the get-go. Any way you look at it, the USA and Europe were different playing fields altogether. In Europe, PGFM ruled, wherein America, they largely went unnoticed -- especially when compared to other big name British acts of the day.

As time went on of course, and more peeps in the States came to discover FM, it was inevitable some of the old buzz surrounding Green and the early "three guitar front" would come to more people's attention. That's why so many on this side went backwards to discover the Mac's blues core.

Sooo ...when Kiln House came out I knew that Green was gone but I thought that Danny had such a great tone out of his Goldtop that he could shine on his own. When I hear the Album I was unprepared for what it played like. I had heard Mission Bell on the radio, Hi Ho Silver and Buddy Holly was, well, Buddy Holley.

Nowhere on the previos FM recordings did old school (I am dating myself here) rock and roll appear.


Well stated. Mirrors my own feelings at the time, 'cept I had a taste of what might be coming from the live setting(s) I witnessed. Still wasn't sure just how retro it would go.

This is the rock this one gets better with age. Spencer has impeccable timing
Station Man we hear in short bursts Dannys guitar tone, nice tune, not very edgy though
Blood On The Foor Spencer at his satirical best
Hi Ho Silver nice rocker good cover
Jewel Eyed Judy Pop here we go (this is for you snoot)
Buddys Song Jeremy got this down good
Earl Gray simmered in the pot too long, but fortells of Dragonfly to come( I also think Dragonfly is Danny's erie best
One Together space filler, nice song
Tell Me All The Things That You Do What I was expecting when I Bought the Album to begin with
Mission Bell Nice Cover, strange ending track


I'm impressed with your takes, much better than some of your "concessionary" MTM ones imo.

thirtyeight? years later the album stands up as a contiguous whole, is as an album higher on the list than many FM releases with better press.

On the button again (but please, don't bring up all those years now ouch). If only more of those post-75ers would give it a spin! They have no idea what a pleasant surprise lies in store.

PS. Some nice guitarmeisters notched under your "live" belt there. Even Alvin Lee in the mix!

EDIT PS. Jewel Eyed Judy rulez! It's where Mac meet the Beatles V. Never forget that.

Last edited by snoot; 12-17-2008 at 08:46 PM..
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