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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires
well put.
I think other people characterizing this "whole thread" as full of nothing but "Stevie hatred" is doing exactly what the troll is accusing everyone else of-- painting everything in one big, broad brush. The issue is not simplistic, this band is complicated and messed up in so many ways, including both Lindsey and Stevie. Most of us admit this. Some of us are in denial about our favorite member. As someone said, this had to be a whole band or at least majority band vote in order to have happened. That includes Stevie. It is difficult if not impossible to think she abstained from voting on this one. And the most likely vote was to get rid of him. Indeed, sources who have proved reliable throughout this have said she issued an ultimatum-- I can't work with him anymore, it's either me or him.
Some of us accept, whether we like it or not, that this appears to be true. Her reasons very likely go beyond just the issue at hand, i.e., should he be part of the tour or not based on something he did/said recently. You can't keep the past out of your decisions in the present, and it seems highly likely her feelings about a lot of past things would come into play when casting her vote about the tour. It also seems likely,, to me and many of us, that SOMETHING beyond just disagreeing about tour dates had to have happened, and that Lindsey may well have crossed the line in something he said/did.
Will we ever know for sure? Maybe, if witnesses are ever willing to talk. I doubt we'll get the real story from the band itself until long, long after this tour is over, because right now they've all got their "good soldier" faces on and will be saying whatever they need to to ensure tickets sell for the tour.
I do wonder if Mike or whats his name will be on tv with them
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Very well said. I am choosing to look at this as a "Fleetwood Mac" issue and not a "Stevie Lindsey" issue. This is a band, and a decision was made--like it or hate it, and as a fan of Fleetwood Mac, I hate it. I do think, cutting through a lot of the noise, that's how many people are feeling. I am still a fan of Stevie's and I am still a fan of Lindsey's. With it's current line up--I am not so psyched about Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac in this current line up, for me anyway, is Christine, John, Mick and Stevie. No disrespect to Mike, who is a fantastic musician, and Neil (I don't know much about Crowded House), but that's a fact. Right now, they are 2 musicians filling a hole that needed to be filled to take this show on the road. Should this current lineup release some new music, my opinion might change. In my opinion, that's one of the main differences between this situation and the Rick/Billy/Bekkah situation. Also, truthfully, even when Chris left. The remaining members released new stuff. Right now, FM with this lineup, has a cover band feel to it. I don't want to go to a FM concert to listen to covers of the Heartbreakers and Crowded House (should they put them in the set) and I don't want to hear Neil sing "Go Your Own Way" or "Don't Stop" Personally, I didn't like "Don't Stop" when Christine wasn't singing it either. That's just my personal preference and not a knock on Stevie (I am a huge fan of hers, have seen her solo countless times and she's an amazing singer---I feel the need to say this b/c I don't want people to say I am taking sides). With a few exceptions, I generally don't like covers. Lorde singing "Silver Springs" was awful to my ears. She's truly talented but I didn't like it--it's a personal preference.
We will never know what truly went down behind the scenes (legal reasons or so they can safe face with the fans). I hope an ultimatum wasn't thrown down. At this juncture in their lives, and after all they've done
FOR EACH OTHER, if the ultimatum is true, that's the saddest thing of all. If this really is the "Farewell Tour" we've all been robbed--the band included.