Yeah I was the one that transcribed that whole thing, yikes was that tedious! That 'cow' comment was pretty awful. I can't imagine that was the type of interaction they had when things were good for them though! I hope not anyway. That interview was done at a really weird time shortly after the splits, but I think it offers a good peek at how things had deteriorated. I think John's other comments about 'being living proof that there is life after death' and 'is there sex after death?' are pretty revealing of how he was hurting at the time.